Flexiwings 2024

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chrisc90 wrote:
19 Sep 2024, 10:08
Exactly my reasoning. Taking the same stance as they did with the front wing. And it’s blatantly against the regs
AD21 was blatantly against everything, but they manipulated the race 'for the show' and simply dismissed any protest.

They will do anything they can to artificially make viewers happy and that includes turning a blind eye to Mclaren doing something dodgy.

FNTC
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LOL, nothing to see here, move on.

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And that in a multi billion business where also bets and so on are involved and the governing body influences competitiveness (in the past, in the present and also likely in the future)
But that's a bit too far off topic.

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It's primarily a CONSTRUCTOR championship, with many people employed to specifically run any advantage that can be thought of in chasing performance through design, manufacture, implementation and operation of these INDIVIDUAL cars.

There doesn't seem to be much wrong in this case. Meeting all of the CURRENTLY applied measurement and test criteria is what they are doing.

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So did Aston's front wing last year, yet still got banned. And many other examples. I don't see how having a larger than allowable DRS gap at speed is allowed either.

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A statement read: “The FIA is closely monitoring the flexibility of bodywork on all cars and reserves the right to request teams to make modifications at any point during the season.

“However, if a team successfully passes all deflection tests and adheres to the regulations and technical directives, they are deemed to be in full compliance and no further action will be taken.

“The FIA is currently reviewing data and any additional evidence that has emerged from the Baku GP and is considering any mitigating measures for future implementation.

“This is part of the standard process when scrutineering technical legality and the FIA retains the authority to introduce regulatory changes during the season if required.”
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FNTC
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"any additional evidence that has emerged from the Baku GP"

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Let the flexywar begin :)

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Vanja #66
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It's nice to get an official confirmation that case 1 from 2021 is not ok, but case 2 from 2024 is now very much ok :lol:

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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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haza
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McLaren rear wing is legal

https://t.co/0wHUsk4pB6

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They added that the FIA was “reviewing data and any additional evidence that has emerged from the Baku GP and considering any mitigating measures for future implementation”.

Not anytime soon, though.

Wing was always legal, it passed the tests. Question was only if they would change the tests,
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Vanja #66 wrote:
19 Sep 2024, 11:35
It's nice to get an official confirmation that case 1 from 2021 is not ok, but case 2 from 2024 is now very much ok :lol:

https://preview.redd.it/w1cu657vyyy61.p ... 3b475066f1

https://i.ibb.co/Hqdrm28/mcl-baku-24.jpg
The whole rear wing structure leans back on the RB and despite the distance between yellow and red lines being similar, the camera on the bull is further away, or at least the aperture creates that perspective, so the AoA "lean" was greater on the Bull and affected DRS flap and the main plane. Not quite apples and oranges, but not apples and apples either.
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FNTC wrote:
19 Sep 2024, 11:25
So did Aston's front wing last year, yet still got banned. And many other examples. I don't see how having a larger than allowable DRS gap at speed is allowed either.
Can we, the general observers, judge that? Didn't appear to be any public domain details sufficient to see what that was, unless I completely missed/mistook that example.

Did anyone show which criteria against that and how the decision was made, sounded like hearsay unless we can see that detail.

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“It’s legal it passes the test”

Means Ferrari engine, mirrors, flexible floor, grapefruit oil burning and more were all legal because they all passed the tests and sensor monitors.

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dialtone wrote:
19 Sep 2024, 13:30
“It’s legal it passes the test”

Means Ferrari engine, mirrors, flexible floor, grapefruit oil burning and more were all legal because they all passed the tests and sensor monitors.
Yeah, it’s a case of one rule for one, one rule for someone else. RBR’s back wing passed the tests in 2021 - but still got told to change it.

Makes you wonder how much noise was coming out of Zak Browns mouth a few months ago about other teams, and now the balls on their court with the flexi devices.