2018 Scuderia Toro Rosso F1 Team - Honda

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Fantastic effort !

I only hope Wazari is still browsing the forum on occasion.
His predictions were almost spot on, and it's a great loss to us all the way he was treated.

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Wouter wrote:
06 Oct 2018, 21:51
Brendon Hartley und Pierre Gasly schaffen es mühelos in die Top-10. Möglich macht's die neue, starke Ausbaustufe des Honda-Motors, den 2019 auch Red Bull im Heck hat. Red-Bull-Berater Helmut Marko zu AUTO BILD MOTORSPORT: „Wir sind total happy mit der Entwicklung. Honda hat 40 kW nachgelegt.“ Umgerechnet sind das 54 PS mehr.
Brendon Hartley and Pierre Gasly effortlessly make it into the top ten. Made possible by the new, strong expansion stage of the Honda engine, in 2019 also Red Bull has in the rear. Red Bull consultant Helmut Marko to AUTO BILD MOTORSPORT: "We are very happy with the development. Honda has added 40 kW. "That's 54 hp more.
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel-1 ... 40081.html
That's a lot. Is it in qualy mode? It could be interesenting knowing how much was the defficit before compare to the rest of the grid as well...

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That would put them ~15kw shy of the big boys.
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Its of no surprise to me. This 40kw would have been in place from the start of the year, but simply was not reliable and not brought forward to the fia to be homologated. i don't think they found that power overnight; its been a long time coming.
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Wtf are the STR Strategists smoking? Totally murdered by Force India

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What on Earth are these pit strategies... Just awful. They do this way too often. Terrible.

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not a single point...
Too much praises before the race.
race pace was nothing spectacular.
Unless aero-update in Austine works, Sauber will be ahead at end of season

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It's all over. No points. Sighhhhhhhh

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What an utter let down. And I blame the pit strategists entirely.
Gasly arguably too hard on the tyres early on after the pitstop. But the stop strategies need looking at. Absolutely disgraceful.

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Joke of a strategy. Even worse than Ferrari. Gasly must have some issues cause he dropped like a dead bird at the last 10 laps.

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What is happening with Gasly's car. Is loosing a lot of seconds per lap after the VSC?

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dead tyres perhaps? And no point pushing cause Sainz was way faster

The real reason is lack of race pace - even with good pits it seems FI would've been able to overtake Gasly, he was almost 1sec/lap slower than them after the pit

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I hope they address this strategy issue. I actually hope the drivers publicly call it out so it's drawn into focus. This has happened far too many times. Not pitting the damn cars.

Agreed Gasly pace drop off towards the end was extreme as well.

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I don't know what is the stupidity that the team behave with in delaying the pit stop ? They just lost time every time they did it and now they lost some points to FI and Renault
That stupidity must be removed . They just waste all the efforts was done by the Japanese and the team

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While it may have eclipsed Renault in the peak power stakes, I think the Honda is still the worst in "sustained power" engine mode. The Renault has poor peak power production, but good recovery, while Ferrari and Mercedes are in a another league altogether.

The other issue is the integration of the PU and chassis. I don't think Toro Rosso have ever got on top of this, so their tyre wear has usually been higher than average. This is not helped by the drivability of the Honda engine, which likely contributes to excessive tyre wear.