Infiniti Red Bull Racing 2014

[Cold Fussion]

What do Red Bull plan on doing is the question, since they're pretty much just an F1 company.

Uhhhhh? No, RedBull are not "just an F1 company". They're a drinks company that uses F1 as a mobile billboard.

They already compete in all kinds of other racing series, along with other crazy things like low-flying aeroplane races.

How much of that is Red Bull Technologies?

[Cam]

It was refreshing to see Vettel interact with Ricciardo after the win. He seemed to be genuinely happy for him and warmly congratulating him. Even refused to allow the focus on his great performance, to ensure it was "his day". I liked that. This is a different side of Vettel that we don't see. Humility suits him.

We didn't see any kamikaze dives by Vettel to get past Ricciardo either. Certainly now the two look solid teammates working together - with respect.

[djos]

I think becoming a father has changed him for the better, I'm actually warming up to him now.

[CHT]

It was refreshing to see Vettel interact with Ricciardo after the win. He seemed to be genuinely happy for him and warmly congratulating him. Even refused to allow the focus on his great performance, to ensure it was "his day". I liked that. This is a different side of Vettel that we don't see. Humility suits him.

We didn't see any kamikaze dives by Vettel to get past Ricciardo either. Certainly now the two look solid teammates working together - with respect.

When drivers are not fighting for championship, they are usually more friendly. Just like Lewis and Rosberg in 2013

I am pretty sure their relationship will be different if they have a genuine chance of winning WDC this year.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Newey will be making Bulls for 2015 as well. Then, something else - http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... olved-with

[CHT]

Surprise but not shocked by the news actually. What surprises me is the timing, as I would expect such announcement will be best left towards the end of the season.

So is RBR going to start a new team in other racing series? Formula E? Le Mans?

[Cold Fussion]

Surprise but not shocked by the news actually. What surprises me is the timing, as I would expect such announcement will be best left towards the end of the season.

So is RBR going to start a new team in other racing series? Formula E? Le Mans?

Not sure what Red Bull would gain out of competing in Le Mans. They're only interested in exposure so long as they're an energy drinks company, I would hazard a guess and say a successful F1 team provides a lot more exposure than Le Mans does currently.

[MOWOG]

There is speculation in some circles that Newey has his sights set on America's Cup racing. He has always said he wants to work with boat design and Red Buil is already heavily involved in America's Cup competition.

Hmmmmmmmm......

[Cam]

If the rumours are true Newey turned down Ferrari - a massive pay packet, designing a Ferrari F1 car and probably open slather on his own custom 'Ferrari by Newey' road car.

Wow. That is no small thing. But it is when you think about it - I think Ferrari is limited in what it can offer a 'genius'.

Red Bull FE, Red Bull LMP1, Red Bull super car through Infinity, Nissan, Renault or self branded, are all similiar offerigns to Ferrari - but, Red Bull yachts, Red Bull planes, Red Bull Stratos (space) are very attractive projects and remember, Red Bull Technologies is a very 'open' environment - it's not a car manufacturer. Technology can be anything, can't it? Ferrari are limited to making cars.

It seems Red Bull 'get' Newey and he's loving it. He'll have a finger in the RB F1 pie for many years to come while finally being able to push his skills in other areas. Can't wait to see what he comes up with.

That's 2 Red Bull top figures that have declined Ferrari's advances now (that I know of). Some in-wards reflection might be needed down there to understand why.

[djos]

There is speculation in some circles that Newey has his sights set on America's Cup racing. He has always said he wants to work with boat design and Red Buil is already heavily involved in America's Cup competition.

Hmmmmmmmm......

Arent they all cookie cutter same make jobs now?

[Cam]

Arent they all cookie cutter same make jobs now?

I could be wrong, but I think the winner can choose the type of boat to race?

Sir Ben Ainslie wants to get Red Bull Formula 1 design chief Adrian Newey involved in his attempt to win the America's Cup with a British team.
Ainslie spoke to Newey, the leading F1 designer for the last 20 years, at November's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.
"Adrian is a big sailing fan," Briton Ainslie told BBC Radio 5 live.
"There's the potential for him perhaps to get involved, cast his eye over our design team and what we're looking at doing."
Adrian Newey has designed the Red Bulls which won the last four Formula 1 world titles
He added: "We had a great catch-up but Adrian is committed to F1 for the foreseeable future."
Newey, who designed the Red Bulls which Sebastian Vettel drove to win the last four world championships, has long spoken of his interest in getting involved in the America's Cup at some point, but he is contracted to Red Bull until at least 2017.
Four-time Olympic champion Ainslie led Oracle Team USA to victory in the America's Cup last year and is trying to raise the money to put together a team to bring the event back to British waters when it is next held.
The winner chooses the next venue, type of boats and date, which is within three to five years of it last being held.
Ainslie has said he is "reasonably confident" of securing the investment to set up a British team.
Newey's expertise in fluid dynamics - a key factor in F1 car design - could be valuable to the team designing the boat.
Ainslie added: "To have the advice of Adrian or many of the very smart people involved with Formula 1 industry in the UK would be a great boost for us as a team.
"Newey is clearly a genius, in anything to do with competitive design and he's got a great profile, but I would hate for anyone to think we were trying to prise him away from Red Bull Racing."

[Cam]

Daniel Ricciardo will definitely still be at the wheel of a Red Bull in 2015, according to Germany's Sport Bild.

Correspondents Ralf Bach and Bianca Garloff claim an option on the impressive team newcomer's contract was taken up by the world champion team in Canada.

Ricciardo, 24, went on to his first career victory in Montreal, and the 2015 deal could be announced at Red Bull's home race in Austria next weekend, Sport Bild said.

According to the Australian Financial Review, the Perth-born driver has already hit the big time.

The publication estimated Ricciardo's base salary at $3.65 million this year, with a victory bonus of between $1m and $2m per win.

Bach and Garloff also claim that Red Bull's "long-term goal" is to keep Ricciardo alongside reigning quadruple world champion Sebastian Vettel until at least 2018.

Good news for Ricciardo and well deserved. With Newey now tucked away, Ricciardo's option picked up, Horner doesn't look like going anywhere and plans to keep hold of Vettel - consistency and continuity are the words at Red Bull Racing.

[MOWOG]

Arent they all cookie cutter same make jobs now?

The answer is, they are built to a set of technical regulations just as F1 cars are. The cars all look pretty similar to the untrained eye when you see them out on track and yes, the boats all look pretty similar when you see them out on the water. But there are significant technical differences between them all - cars and boats - and that is where the difference lies.

It is true that the current holder of The Cup gets to set the design parameters, but must bear in mind, of course, that the package has to be interesting enough to attract other competitors. Sailing around on your own on a summer afternoon is not the way to attract sponsors, television coverage and fans!

Some years back, before the current rules were set in place, a rather iconoclastic chap from New Zealand challenged in a 178 foot sea going behemoth. Dennis Conner and his defense team countered with a catamaran that was at least twice as fast on the water. But such silliness cannot happen again unless and until the rules are changed to allow another such debacle.

It was that experience, though, that opened the eyes of the sailing world to the possibility of using catamarans, which brings us forward to today where the boats are capable of speeds up to and exceeding 50 mph. That may not sound like much to an F1 fan, but that is equivalent to about 250 mph on a race track. Things happen very, very fast at those speeds. In fact, a crewman was killed on the Red Bull team this past year when the boat pitch poled during training. He got caught up in a line and was dragged under and drowned.

The crew are among the best conditioned athletes in the world (I said among to avoid a lengthy debate about which sport has the most highly trained athletes) but make no mistake, these are not cheese eating, wine swilling sundeck sailors in khakis and striped shirts who are all married to blond women named Muffy wearing cable knit sweaters and tennis shoes.

I would be happy to start a separate thread about America's Cup if anyone is interested. Any Formula One fan should find AC racing as thrilling and challenging as what F1 has to offer. AC fans are kindred souls.

I think that is enough thread hijacking for one morning. We now return you to your regular programming, already in progress.

[CHT]

Could Redbull be planning a completely new racing series with AN designing the car that looks like this.

[dandfx]

I'm not sure the'd push for a new series but Nissan have announced an alternative approach at the LMP1 class of Le Mans. Ben Bowlby who designed the Delta Wing is apparently head designer, imagine his lateral thinking linked with Newey's ability, might hint to a portion of his future role?