2026 McLaren Mastercard F1 Team

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Waz wrote:
31 Jul 2026, 15:15
Alonso nor Spygate had anything to do with McLaren even needing to bounce back. They were perfectly competitive from 2008 to end of 2012.

The slide to near bankruptcy was Ron Dennis and his band of merry Muppets dictating to Honda and any potential sponsors.

Fortunately, Zak Brown and his marketing team are extremely good at signing sponsors, which allowed them to buy out a Honda contract with no performance clauses.

Alonso at Ferrari still finished ahead of Hamilton each year. Let's not rewrite too much history.
It's true that Alonso finished ahead of Hamilton these 3 years but then again Hamilton had double the retirements from things outside his control and usually he was challenging for wins, not to mention Mclaren screwing Hamilton so many times. With equal number of retirements we could have seen a different result and I dare say Hamilton could have had two more Mclaren championships.

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Is everyone on vacation? Suddenly nobody's talking at all. Are there no news at all?

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It's just a shame. I hope he gets fired immediately.

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Some interesting stuff in here about a new engine group.

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/formula- ... hallenges/

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https://autoracer.it/mclaren-houldey-bi ... -mercedes/

Main ideas:

A good starting point with room for growth
According to Houldey, the MCL40 was built on a solid design foundation, even if the initial level of development wasn't yet as desired. "The launch car was a good starting point. We made the right decisions on the main concepts, the layout, and the elements that were established throughout the season, such as the suspension geometry."

“ We were slightly over the launch weight limit and had to dedicate time and resources to bringing the car back to the regulatory minimum before the first race . Naturally, this took resources away from performance development.”

Houldey emphasizes, however, that the plan worked as expected. "We knew that after the Barcelona tests we would identify where to remove material and where to add. In the end, we reached the weight limit already in the first race, which was our goal ."
“ We learned a lot about how tires work , what they need in terms of heating and cooling, and this influenced some of the updates we introduced.”

Despite recent progress, Houldey believes the MCL40's potential hasn't yet been fully realized. "The drivers have given us very useful feedback: the car isn't easy to drive yet . We can increase the overall aerodynamic load, but above all, make it easier to exploit both in qualifying and in the race."

Updates until Baku, then the choice between 2026 and 2027
The development program won't stop after the summer break. "We have small updates planned for the next few races and then a potentially more significant package in Baku." The strategy after that will depend on the aerodynamic work. "After Baku, it will depend on how much performance we still find and whether we feel it's more advantageous to prepare a further package for the end of the season or focus all our resources on next year's car." For now, the decision hasn't been made yet and will also depend on the progress of our rivals. "I believe there's a good chance we can continue introducing updates beyond Baku without compromising the 2027 project. They will mostly be additional components, rather than major bodywork changes, but there's still performance to be found in these areas."

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SilviuAgo wrote:
05 Aug 2026, 17:57
https://autoracer.it/mclaren-houldey-bi ... -mercedes/

Main ideas:

A good starting point with room for growth
According to Houldey, the MCL40 was built on a solid design foundation, even if the initial level of development wasn't yet as desired. "The launch car was a good starting point. We made the right decisions on the main concepts, the layout, and the elements that were established throughout the season, such as the suspension geometry."

“ We were slightly over the launch weight limit and had to dedicate time and resources to bringing the car back to the regulatory minimum before the first race . Naturally, this took resources away from performance development.”

Houldey emphasizes, however, that the plan worked as expected. "We knew that after the Barcelona tests we would identify where to remove material and where to add. In the end, we reached the weight limit already in the first race, which was our goal ."
“ We learned a lot about how tires work , what they need in terms of heating and cooling, and this influenced some of the updates we introduced.”

Despite recent progress, Houldey believes the MCL40's potential hasn't yet been fully realized. "The drivers have given us very useful feedback: the car isn't easy to drive yet . We can increase the overall aerodynamic load, but above all, make it easier to exploit both in qualifying and in the race."

Updates until Baku, then the choice between 2026 and 2027
The development program won't stop after the summer break. "We have small updates planned for the next few races and then a potentially more significant package in Baku." The strategy after that will depend on the aerodynamic work. "After Baku, it will depend on how much performance we still find and whether we feel it's more advantageous to prepare a further package for the end of the season or focus all our resources on next year's car." For now, the decision hasn't been made yet and will also depend on the progress of our rivals. "I believe there's a good chance we can continue introducing updates beyond Baku without compromising the 2027 project. They will mostly be additional components, rather than major bodywork changes, but there's still performance to be found in these areas."

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/20832136 ... name=small
A.k.a after Baku of Mclaren have a shot at winning a title they will being another package towards the end of the season.
:mrgreen:
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*statement was relevant when the forum had a high level of intelligence. Now we are just equals.

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Interesting to finally clear-up if they started the season over-weight, or not, as the the case appears, but I’m sure they’re still working to get as far below the weight limit as reasonably possible, still

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CjC wrote:
05 Aug 2026, 21:48
SilviuAgo wrote:
05 Aug 2026, 17:57
https://autoracer.it/mclaren-houldey-bi ... -mercedes/

Main ideas:

A good starting point with room for growth
According to Houldey, the MCL40 was built on a solid design foundation, even if the initial level of development wasn't yet as desired. "The launch car was a good starting point. We made the right decisions on the main concepts, the layout, and the elements that were established throughout the season, such as the suspension geometry."

“ We were slightly over the launch weight limit and had to dedicate time and resources to bringing the car back to the regulatory minimum before the first race . Naturally, this took resources away from performance development.”

Houldey emphasizes, however, that the plan worked as expected. "We knew that after the Barcelona tests we would identify where to remove material and where to add. In the end, we reached the weight limit already in the first race, which was our goal ."
“ We learned a lot about how tires work , what they need in terms of heating and cooling, and this influenced some of the updates we introduced.”

Despite recent progress, Houldey believes the MCL40's potential hasn't yet been fully realized. "The drivers have given us very useful feedback: the car isn't easy to drive yet . We can increase the overall aerodynamic load, but above all, make it easier to exploit both in qualifying and in the race."

Updates until Baku, then the choice between 2026 and 2027
The development program won't stop after the summer break. "We have small updates planned for the next few races and then a potentially more significant package in Baku." The strategy after that will depend on the aerodynamic work. "After Baku, it will depend on how much performance we still find and whether we feel it's more advantageous to prepare a further package for the end of the season or focus all our resources on next year's car." For now, the decision hasn't been made yet and will also depend on the progress of our rivals. "I believe there's a good chance we can continue introducing updates beyond Baku without compromising the 2027 project. They will mostly be additional components, rather than major bodywork changes, but there's still performance to be found in these areas."

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/20832136 ... name=small
A.k.a after Baku of Mclaren have a shot at winning a title they will being another package towards the end of the season.
:mrgreen:

I think Mclaren will have the fastest car by the end of the year.
Working on the balance.

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AR3-GP wrote:
06 Aug 2026, 02:15
CjC wrote:
05 Aug 2026, 21:48
SilviuAgo wrote:
05 Aug 2026, 17:57
https://autoracer.it/mclaren-houldey-bi ... -mercedes/

Main ideas:

A good starting point with room for growth
According to Houldey, the MCL40 was built on a solid design foundation, even if the initial level of development wasn't yet as desired. "The launch car was a good starting point. We made the right decisions on the main concepts, the layout, and the elements that were established throughout the season, such as the suspension geometry."

“ We were slightly over the launch weight limit and had to dedicate time and resources to bringing the car back to the regulatory minimum before the first race . Naturally, this took resources away from performance development.”

Houldey emphasizes, however, that the plan worked as expected. "We knew that after the Barcelona tests we would identify where to remove material and where to add. In the end, we reached the weight limit already in the first race, which was our goal ."
“ We learned a lot about how tires work , what they need in terms of heating and cooling, and this influenced some of the updates we introduced.”

Despite recent progress, Houldey believes the MCL40's potential hasn't yet been fully realized. "The drivers have given us very useful feedback: the car isn't easy to drive yet . We can increase the overall aerodynamic load, but above all, make it easier to exploit both in qualifying and in the race."

Updates until Baku, then the choice between 2026 and 2027
The development program won't stop after the summer break. "We have small updates planned for the next few races and then a potentially more significant package in Baku." The strategy after that will depend on the aerodynamic work. "After Baku, it will depend on how much performance we still find and whether we feel it's more advantageous to prepare a further package for the end of the season or focus all our resources on next year's car." For now, the decision hasn't been made yet and will also depend on the progress of our rivals. "I believe there's a good chance we can continue introducing updates beyond Baku without compromising the 2027 project. They will mostly be additional components, rather than major bodywork changes, but there's still performance to be found in these areas."

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/20832136 ... name=small
A.k.a after Baku of Mclaren have a shot at winning a title they will being another package towards the end of the season.
:mrgreen:

I think Mclaren will have the fastest car by the end of the year.
And in 2027 we will have another 2025, albeit this time Lando will be super dominant.

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Let's see. The shorter wheelbase will have done well at Hungary, and it'll also like Zandvoort.

The changes appear to have helped the car open the window for it's useable aero, rather than increase aero directly.

I talked earlier in the season about the difficulties under breaking into a corner and this package looks like it may have addressed that. How this translates onto other tracks and how much the wheelbasr or the high downforce config supported our performance alongside the upgrades at Hungary is unknown right now, IMO.
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mwillems wrote:
07 Aug 2026, 09:21
Let's see. The shorter wheelbase will have done well at Hungary, and it'll also like Zandvoort.
We will see indeed but if the Hungary success was track specific because of the wheelbase and the gear ratios, I think you will have heard a very very different tone from McLaren after the race. Now the tone is "this is just the beginning" rather than "it was the track. we have to see more to be sure". In fact, the latter message is coming more from Toto and others than McLaren

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Macklaren wrote:
07 Aug 2026, 14:55
mwillems wrote:
07 Aug 2026, 09:21
Let's see. The shorter wheelbase will have done well at Hungary, and it'll also like Zandvoort.
We will see indeed but if the Hungary success was track specific because of the wheelbase and the gear ratios, I think you will have heard a very very different tone from McLaren after the race. Now the tone is "this is just the beginning" rather than "it was the track. we have to see more to be sure". In fact, the latter message is coming more from Toto and others than McLaren
Agree. Not forgetting that Lando was fast in Spa as well. If he's not had the penalty his pace could have had him fighting for the win.
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More fascinating Houldey insight. Wonder what next generation of rear wings means and whether that already includes the spa/Hungary updates

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... /10845447/

Also, confirmation that next year's car will be longer wheelbase and different suspension

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... /10845412/

Makes you wonder whether HPP kept McLaren in the loop about anything around the engine at all in the off-season. It's a miracle/genius that we're still competitive, despite carrying the wrong wheelbase, wrong suspension, wrong gear ratios and only getting engine sim tools 2 races ago

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I admit I underestimated how much a customer would suffer. I anticipated they would be at a disadvantage for the first season, but I imagined it would be strictly limited to engine architecture forcing or favoring certain design directions which might not have been aligned with customer's development findings. Never imagined they could withhold so much information and get away with it under current regulations.
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