2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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formu1a.uno says the sparks produced by the SF-23 on the straights indicate an aggressive approach to ride height

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I don't get the impression that we were running the PU that low, certainly not lower than RB. Looking at the RPM trace they seem to be down around 200-400rpm on most straights. We are certainly running slightly lower than both Mercedes and Aston.

Aston were the team, and only Mercedes powered team for that matter to shift into 8th on the new straight section. Maybe suggesting they are running higher on the engine mode. They also seem to accelerate much harder on the previous straight sections.

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KimiRai wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 04:42
formu1a.uno says the sparks produced by the SF-23 on the straights indicate an aggressive approach to ride height
Yes, this was evident. It will also be very telling if RB and some other teams refuse to lower the car today amid new TD procedures...
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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Alonsismo
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sainz looks very fast

JPower
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This is the best chance Ferrari will get all season.

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Yeah baby

cmon Carlos Sainz Vazquez de Castro

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Sainz has the hot hand in qualifying right now.

Going to be tough holding back Russell based on the long runs though. Going to take an A+ effort from everyone on the team to get either driver on the top step.

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T17 man, he threw it all T17, Charles was a tenth and a half up until then

Well done to Sainz thats had a very good weekend so far.


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Read the driver comments, check the gaps. Now read the comments from '22 and check the gaps. I'll remind you Verstappen was beaten twice when the car even slightly favoured Perez...

Leclerc and Verstappen are very close in terms of how they enjoy balance. You heard the way Verstappen whines when he isn't enjoying the car (rightly so) to a degree Hamilton aswell. Charles needs to be a bit more whiny, annoying but necessary.

Our quickest driver is having to drive with crutches. Good thing the people who were advocating for changes in the car balance are both gone. If they are planning on competing for a title next year exploiting our biological weapon must be prioritized. I hope following the RB concept will bring us exactly what we want. It at a very minimum seems necessary.


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scuderiabrandon wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:42
T17 man, he threw it all T17, Charles was a tenth and a half up until then

Well done to Sainz thats had a very good weekend so far.


https://ibb.co/M9V1Fvx
No, leclerc was 0.034s ahead after 2 sectors, but lap is not over after 2 sectors. These fluctuations are happening all the way around the lap, Sainz also didn't do his best second sector on his pole lap, so he could complain in similar way. I always find it funny when all is blamed on second to last or last corner, disregarding entire lap that happened until that point.

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Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:12
scuderiabrandon wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:42
T17 man, he threw it all T17, Charles was a tenth and a half up until then

Well done to Sainz thats had a very good weekend so far.


https://ibb.co/M9V1Fvx
No, leclerc was 0.034s ahead after 2 sectors, but lap is not over after 2 sectors. These fluctuations are happening all the way around the lap, Sainz also didn't do his best second sector on his pole lap, so he could complain in similar way. I always find it funny when all is blamed on second to last or last corner, disregarding entire lap that happened until that point.
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That was my post after directly after qualifying. The broadcast showed -0.176s up on Sainz' time hence my "tenth and a half" comment.

Secondly he still lost almost 2 tenths in that mistake alone in T17 up until then h was ahead of Sainz. Everything I said was factually correct. So why the comment?
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scuderiabrandon wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:13
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:12
scuderiabrandon wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:42
T17 man, he threw it all T17, Charles was a tenth and a half up until then

Well done to Sainz thats had a very good weekend so far.


https://ibb.co/M9V1Fvx
No, leclerc was 0.034s ahead after 2 sectors, but lap is not over after 2 sectors. These fluctuations are happening all the way around the lap, Sainz also didn't do his best second sector on his pole lap, so he could complain in similar way. I always find it funny when all is blamed on second to last or last corner, disregarding entire lap that happened until that point.
https://ibb.co/t3tqwM2
Yeah I checked it out already, but I still think the same. We've seen leclerc overshot soft tyres in S3 a couple of times this weekend and not so much on Sainz. It's not like Sainz pulled a lap out of the hat, he was faster almost all the time, so there's not too much to be disappointed about if you're Leclerc. He needed a perfect lap to beat him, didn't happen today. Shame russell got him, because with a front row lockout ferrari win is almost guaranteed, but now there's much more jeopardy with Rus sandwiched in between.

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Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:22
scuderiabrandon wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:13
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:12

No, leclerc was 0.034s ahead after 2 sectors, but lap is not over after 2 sectors. These fluctuations are happening all the way around the lap, Sainz also didn't do his best second sector on his pole lap, so he could complain in similar way. I always find it funny when all is blamed on second to last or last corner, disregarding entire lap that happened until that point.
https://ibb.co/t3tqwM2
Yeah I checked it out already, but I still think the same. We've seen leclerc overshot soft tyres in S3 a couple of times this weekend and not so much on Sainz. It's not like Sainz pulled a lap out of the hat, he was faster almost all the time, so there's not too much to be disappointed about if you're Leclerc. He needed a perfect lap to beat him, didn't happen today. Shame russell got him, because with a front row lockout ferrari win is almost guaranteed, but now there's much more jeopardy with Rus sandwiched in between.
I'd be more concerned about starting next to, or nearby Russell. He has made it very clear last time out that he will gladly take a penalty rather than be fair or clean. With no RB and better long run pace, how much will a 5sec pen cost him if he takes his nearest rival out?

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:25
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:22
scuderiabrandon wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:13


https://ibb.co/t3tqwM2
Yeah I checked it out already, but I still think the same. We've seen leclerc overshot soft tyres in S3 a couple of times this weekend and not so much on Sainz. It's not like Sainz pulled a lap out of the hat, he was faster almost all the time, so there's not too much to be disappointed about if you're Leclerc. He needed a perfect lap to beat him, didn't happen today. Shame russell got him, because with a front row lockout ferrari win is almost guaranteed, but now there's much more jeopardy with Rus sandwiched in between.
I'd be more concerned about starting next to, or nearby Russell. He has made it very clear last time out that he will gladly take a penalty rather than be fair or clean.
I agree, If russell has a smidgen better start than carlos he will no doubt send him off the road, I guarantee it. In that case one ferrari should bite the bullet, not yield and take both of them out, another one can then take the win.

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I like Leclerc and find him to generally be the better driver in all conditions - a little bit faster than Carlos in quali but with a bigger margin generally in the race - so I’m usually more comfortable and happy if the driver I feel is generally stronger is in the lead position.

But you’ve got to say - irrespective of car characteristics or whatever - this is the best Sainz has driven in his Ferrari career and he’s hit a run of form. If the car last year was more suited to Leclerc (and Sainz spoke many times about having difficulty adapting) then I don’t begrudge it going the other way this year. What’s important is that a Ferrari is in the lead and on the top step of the podium and so if that’s him, then great.

As I say, I wouldn’t be surprised if Charles has the better race pace - and I can see a 2019 strategy option being the best way to secure the win and/or a 1-2, so I hope Ferrari don’t do anything stupid and play the team game - but hats off to Carlos for the last two weeks’ quali performance.