Are they though? McLaren are comfortably 2nd fastest now I’d say. Pointless looking at the WCC table given mclaren didn’t even bother bringing a worthwhile car for 1/3 of the season.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑31 Aug 2023, 21:38Team, not car. The comment was that they're an upper midfield team. They're not. As a team, they're outperforming those with ostensibly faster cars. With a faster car, they'll be leaving those others behind.AR3-GP wrote: ↑31 Aug 2023, 19:35The drivers are flattering the car a bit. By contrast, Stroll is making Aston look worse than they are. Merc are not necessarily convincingly the 2nd fastest car anywhere. In fact that mantle went to Mclaren, Aston, and Ferrari on more occasions than not.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑31 Aug 2023, 16:51
Er, they're currently second in the constructors' title race behind the most dominant car of its era. I guess that's one definition of "upper-midfield" but most drivers would be happy in such a seat.
AMR were strong but a botched upgrade dropped them back.
Ferrari are just Ferrari and most teams are capitalising off their mess ups.
Dare bet if you take from say silverstone onwards… merc won’t be 2nd without a fight.
Pointless giving hypotheticals… if all the teams had a RB, then where would the team standings be? Totally silly saying with a faster car they would be leaving others behind… because you can say the same for the 8-9 other teams on the grid