2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[ringo]

Adami and Hamilton have a lot of gelling to do.
It's like the driver is talking to a wall just reading the race radio.
https://www.racefans.net/2025/05/26/hav ... monaco-gp/
The traffic did undo his, race but it seems Adami was overwhelmed and not able to answer what the driver queried.
I say they should keep Adami for continuity for this year, but he needs a lot of work.
Maybe someone like Rob Smedley or Bono would be more suitable.

[Vanja #66]

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Regurgitated nonsense. There's no shift to marketing and lack of soul. Company separated from FCA (now Stellantis) and went public. Enzo had to chose between selling to Agnellis or going bankrupt back in '69! Market cap has grown almost 10 times in 10 years on NYSC, they've more than doubled their assets AND operating margins. Company is thriving, cars have much better build quality than 20 years ago and production rates are up by over 80% compared to 10 years ago.

As for F1 team, the lack of continuity of team structure and results after Schumacher is down to di Montezemolo alone. Refused to invest in digital and simulation tools even well after F1 and FIA announced they will move to tighten down everything about private and official track testing, forced Schumacher out even if he had few more years of great racing in him, forced Brawn out along with Schumacher, sacked Costa in 2011 and finally gloriously failed in 2014. Legend

[Waz]

Let's not derail too far, but nobody forced Schumacher out and that 2011 car was garbage. Alonso went from nearly winning a title to being lucky to win 1 race. Upgrades throughout 2010 were hit and miss as well and by season end they were behind Red Bull and McLaren.

Costa got lucky at Mercedes.

[Cs98]

Adami and Hamilton have a lot of gelling to do.
It's like the driver is talking to a wall just reading the race radio.
https://www.racefans.net/2025/05/26/hav ... monaco-gp/
The traffic did undo his, race but it seems Adami was overwhelmed and not able to answer what the driver queried.
I say they should keep Adami for continuity for this year, but he needs a lot of work.
Maybe someone like Rob Smedley or Bono would be more suitable.

I get the opposite impression. Adami is giving Hamilton the relevant information, he's telling him when to push to overcut Hadjar and Alonso, he's giving him the gaps and pace of the cars ahead, he's giving him pace targets, he's giving him BBAL and BMIG suggestions to control rear temps. The problem is that Hamilton is off the pace of the top 4 so he finds himself in no man's land between the top cars and the midfield. He keeps prodding Adami for some magical piece of information that would improve his race but there is no such thing when he's simply too slow, hence why Adami is sometimes reticent to answer. At the end of the day he finished as high as he could have given the pace.

In general I think Lewis really likes a target in mind when he's driving, something to chase. But when he finds himself in no man's land without a concrete way move forward he becomes quite edgy and difficult to work with.

[Vanja #66]

Costa got lucky at Mercedes.

[SiLo]

Adami and Hamilton have a lot of gelling to do.
It's like the driver is talking to a wall just reading the race radio.
https://www.racefans.net/2025/05/26/hav ... monaco-gp/
The traffic did undo his, race but it seems Adami was overwhelmed and not able to answer what the driver queried.
I say they should keep Adami for continuity for this year, but he needs a lot of work.
Maybe someone like Rob Smedley or Bono would be more suitable.

I get the opposite impression. Adami is giving Hamilton the relevant information, he's telling him when to push to overcut Hadjar and Alonso, he's giving him the gaps and pace of the cars ahead, he's giving him pace targets, he's giving him BBAL and BMIG suggestions to control rear temps. The problem is that Hamilton is off the pace of the top 4 so he finds himself in no man's land between the top cars and the midfield. He keeps prodding Adami for some magical piece of information that would improve his race but there is no such thing when he's simply too slow, hence why Adami is sometimes reticent to answer. At the end of the day he finished as high as he could have given the pace.

In general I think Lewis really likes a target in mind when he's driving, something to chase. But when he finds himself in no man's land without a concrete way move forward he becomes quite edgy and difficult to work with.

I read through the transcripts, and Adami tells him little things, but gives him no big picture of the race at all. Doesn't explain why he's giving gaps to Max, or what others have done in terms of the race itself. He was even confused about why Adami was giving him a gap to Max, because Adami hadn't told him Max had not pit yet. Context like this matters during a race.

Ferrari need a real look at the way they communicate to their drivers, and Lewis needs to be clear about what he wants from his engineer. I'm not sure if this is just a way they agreed to work initially, but it's not working.

[SharkY]

Just to mention one field, where Ferrari actually needs a praise: once again they shine with their pit stops, having a new 2025 pit stop record of 2.00s (they actually had 3 fastest pit stops in Monaco).
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... cCpPgBEKHa

https://inmotion.dhl/en/formula-1/faste ... stop-award
Ferrari claims TOP 1-6 of all 2025 pit stops.

I have no idea, what Fred has done, but on operational side, the team has been turned from a laugh of the field to the top tier. Even the infamous "Ferrari strategy" that claims defeat from the jaws of victory is no longer valid, and I don't have to grit my teeth, when they do something unorthodox. They've earned my trust in that regard.

[MattLightBlue]

Adami and Hamilton have a lot of gelling to do.
It's like the driver is talking to a wall just reading the race radio.
https://www.racefans.net/2025/05/26/hav ... monaco-gp/
The traffic did undo his, race but it seems Adami was overwhelmed and not able to answer what the driver queried.
I say they should keep Adami for continuity for this year, but he needs a lot of work.
Maybe someone like Rob Smedley or Bono would be more suitable.

I get the opposite impression. Adami is giving Hamilton the relevant information, he's telling him when to push to overcut Hadjar and Alonso, he's giving him the gaps and pace of the cars ahead, he's giving him pace targets, he's giving him BBAL and BMIG suggestions to control rear temps. The problem is that Hamilton is off the pace of the top 4 so he finds himself in no man's land between the top cars and the midfield. He keeps prodding Adami for some magical piece of information that would improve his race but there is no such thing when he's simply too slow, hence why Adami is sometimes reticent to answer. At the end of the day he finished as high as he could have given the pace.

In general I think Lewis really likes a target in mind when he's driving, something to chase. But when he finds himself in no man's land without a concrete way move forward he becomes quite edgy and difficult to work with.

I fully agree. I think the Hamilton situation is getting quite embarrassing, frankly. Instead of getting frustrated to an excellent race engineer like Adami, a 40 years old man should look humbly into himself and ask why he can’t match at all his teammate performance, both in race and qualifying.
I still think Hamilton can do a lot better than this.

[Cs98]

Adami and Hamilton have a lot of gelling to do.
It's like the driver is talking to a wall just reading the race radio.
https://www.racefans.net/2025/05/26/hav ... monaco-gp/
The traffic did undo his, race but it seems Adami was overwhelmed and not able to answer what the driver queried.
I say they should keep Adami for continuity for this year, but he needs a lot of work.
Maybe someone like Rob Smedley or Bono would be more suitable.

I get the opposite impression. Adami is giving Hamilton the relevant information, he's telling him when to push to overcut Hadjar and Alonso, he's giving him the gaps and pace of the cars ahead, he's giving him pace targets, he's giving him BBAL and BMIG suggestions to control rear temps. The problem is that Hamilton is off the pace of the top 4 so he finds himself in no man's land between the top cars and the midfield. He keeps prodding Adami for some magical piece of information that would improve his race but there is no such thing when he's simply too slow, hence why Adami is sometimes reticent to answer. At the end of the day he finished as high as he could have given the pace.

In general I think Lewis really likes a target in mind when he's driving, something to chase. But when he finds himself in no man's land without a concrete way move forward he becomes quite edgy and difficult to work with.

I read through the transcripts, and Adami tells him little things, but gives him no big picture of the race at all. Doesn't explain why he's giving gaps to Max, or what others have done in terms of the race itself. He was even confused about why Adami was giving him a gap to Max, because Adami hadn't told him Max had not pit yet. Context like this matters during a race.

Ferrari need a real look at the way they communicate to their drivers, and Lewis needs to be clear about what he wants from his engineer. I'm not sure if this is just a way they agreed to work initially, but it's not working.

The "big picture" of the race was that Hamilton wasn't in the race at the front. Should Adami have come on the radio and told him he's too slow to catch anyone ahead and he's going to finish where he is? That would have been the truth, but I suspect that would have been met with discontent as well. Adami takes the blame for the impeding on Saturday but all this noise about the race feels more like general discontent at the lack of performance rather than a legitimate grievance. Ferrari gave him the right strategy and instructions to jump two cars, that's a resounding success at Monaco where it's impossible to overtake. I mean, look at 2021 where he started 6th and finished 7th stuck behind an Alpha Tauri.

[ME4ME]

To me it seems Adami is too focused on the minor details. He is too distracted to truly listen to Hamilton. He fails to provide answers to his drivers' questions and fails to keep him updated on traffic when it matters. Adami is trying to do too much engineering in the background. If that's what he is good at, he should do that but shouldn't be the one speaking to Hamilton. Ferrari should split Adamis role into 2.

[bluechris]

I think Adami tried to save Hamilton's face in Monaco... I mean, he was slower in comparison to Leclerc, and he tried to not say much and leave it as it is. Now if Hamilton doesn't understand that and is getting pissed, is something they need to discuss, and I really believe they did discuss it after the race.
I really like Hamilton, don't misunderstand me, but he is fed into a "LION" like Alonso said, and this lion is Leclerc... It's not an easy job to change teams with a whole different philosophy, different culture, different language, totally different car, and to have also an alien as the 2nd driver on the team. Hamilton needs too much time for certain, and that is obvious… i suppose the whole year will pass like this with small glimpses of equality between him and Leclerc in some races.
Next year, with total different cars that will be new to both drivers, the situation, I suppose, will be different, but IMO we need to give everyone some slack...

[SiLo]

I think Adami tried to save Hamilton's face in Monaco... I mean, he was slower in comparison to Leclerc, and he tried to not say much and leave it as it is. Now if Hamilton doesn't understand that and is getting pissed, is something they need to discuss, and I really believe they did discuss it after the race.
I really like Hamilton, don't misunderstand me, but he is fed into a "LION" like Alonso said, and this lion is Leclerc... It's not an easy job to change teams with a whole different philosophy, different culture, different language, totally different car, and to have also an alien as the 2nd driver on the team. Hamilton needs too much time for certain, and that is obvious… i suppose the whole year will pass like this with small glimpses of equality between him and Leclerc in some races.
Next year, with total different cars that will be new to both drivers, the situation, I suppose, will be different, but IMO we need to give everyone some slack...

Tbh I'm not sure if Hamilton was going as fast as he could at any point, he just got given a target and drove to it. I agree he was slower, but this wasn't about Adami trying to save face for him. I'm surprised these issues are still going on, Lewis needs to step up and tell him what he wants to hear before he is even sitting in the car.

[atanatizante]

This message is coming from the qualifying session.

Is this the first time HAM has used the engine braking?

[Luscion]

This message is coming from the qualifying session.

Is this the first time HAM has used the engine braking?


https://postimages.org/

Yea, he's said a few times now its the first time he's had to use engine braking

[f1316]

Let's not derail too far, but nobody forced Schumacher out and that 2011 car was garbage. Alonso went from nearly winning a title to being lucky to win 1 race. Upgrades throughout 2010 were hit and miss as well and by season end they were behind Red Bull and McLaren.

Costa got lucky at Mercedes.

It’s very well documented that Schumacher was pushed out and didn’t really want to retire that year. He was also still significantly faster than Massa, had the advantage of being the most familiar with the (for 2007, control) Bridgestone tyre, and would surely therefore have comfortably won in 07/08 by maximising points (rather than Kimi/Massa sharing victories). Hindsight is 20/20 but if you compare Schumi’s treatment as a 7 time world champion to that Hamilton was getting at Mercedes, clearly he was treated with very little respect/appreciation.

The 2011 car actually was fundamentally sound but missed the trick of blown diffusers (bolting it on rather than designing it into the concept) - evidenced by the fact that the one race Ferrari won that year was the one where exhaust blowing was banned. It’s an example of throwing the baby out with the bath water/blame culture if ever we saw one.

Costa was an expert on the type of suspension issues that, wait a minute, perhaps might come in handy to this day…