2023 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, June 02 - 04

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mendis wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:47
What a dominant win for Max! He finally got a good start, despite being on the slower tyre! I didn't understand why RB went with Mediums and Hards for two stints as it was always going to be difficult to manage those. Softs-Mediums-Softs could have given a better margin than what it was in the end.
Verstappen drove most of the race on a 1 step slower tire relative to Merc which should put things into perspective.

Toto claims that the gap could have been 15 seconds, not the 24 we saw..but completely ignores this fact. Gap would have been much larger if RB ran the same tire strat as Merc. RB gave up free laptime when the tire deg was not an issue.
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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:49
Good to see them all enjoying themselves on the podium.
I think I heard them saying in the cool down room that they were all just going to "spray it around". =D>
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Just_a_fan wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:53
chrisc90 wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:49
Good to see them all enjoying themselves on the podium.
I think I heard them saying in the cool down room that they were all just going to "spray it around". =D>
Yeah they did.
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McLaren and Ferrari still have awful race pace. Really can't understand why the Ferrari is so bad on its tyres. They really need to rethink it.
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AR3-GP wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:53
mendis wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:47
What a dominant win for Max! He finally got a good start, despite being on the slower tyre! I didn't understand why RB went with Mediums and Hards for two stints as it was always going to be difficult to manage those. Softs-Mediums-Softs could have given a better margin than what it was in the end.
Verstappen drove most of the race on a 1 step slower tire relative to Merc which should put things into perspective.

Toto claims that the gap could have been 15 seconds, not the 24 we saw..but completely ignores this fact. Gap would have been much larger if RB ran the same tire strat as Merc.
Even with that strategy, for most part Max was going around walking in the park while others behind were driving nuts off to get or maintain places. It's ok for Toto to tell that and console himself. :lol:

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mendis wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:47
What a dominant win for Max! He finally got a good start, despite being on the slower tyre! I didn't understand why RB went with Mediums and Hards for two stints as it was always going to be difficult to manage those. Softs-Mediums-Softs could have given a better margin than what it was in the end.
Why put more stress through the car than you need to? If you can drive half a second a lap off your ultimate pace and still pull a gap, doing anymore is just silly.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:59
mendis wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:47
What a dominant win for Max! He finally got a good start, despite being on the slower tyre! I didn't understand why RB went with Mediums and Hards for two stints as it was always going to be difficult to manage those. Softs-Mediums-Softs could have given a better margin than what it was in the end.
Why put more stress through the car than you need to? If you can drive half a second a lap off your ultimate pace and still pull a gap, doing anymore is just silly.
To demoralize the competition. This may have psychological benefits.

On the other hand, they'll invite an FIA nerf...
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AR3-GP wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 17:00
Just_a_fan wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:59
mendis wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:47
What a dominant win for Max! He finally got a good start, despite being on the slower tyre! I didn't understand why RB went with Mediums and Hards for two stints as it was always going to be difficult to manage those. Softs-Mediums-Softs could have given a better margin than what it was in the end.
Why put more stress through the car than you need to? If you can drive half a second a lap off your ultimate pace and still pull a gap, doing anymore is just silly.
To demoralize the competition. This may have psychological benefits.

On the other hand, they'll invite an FIA nerf...
Absolutely not. These PU’s have to last 4500km or so. They’re all managing them, the transmissions, and other parts.

A 12yo team manager may run the team this way, but no one actually does in any racing.

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Was always a dud of a season. Post upgrades, it looks like a return to a normal looking order now. I thought AMR would start well with the concept and then fail to develop it through the season. Merc seem to have jumped into second and it’s all ‘as it was’ kind of feeling now.

Max a three time champ and looks thoroughly bored achieving it

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Anyone with an answer as to why Ferrari pitted Leclerc on Hards on Lap 17?? He could easily have gone to Lap 35-40!
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Just_a_fan wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:59
mendis wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:47
What a dominant win for Max! He finally got a good start, despite being on the slower tyre! I didn't understand why RB went with Mediums and Hards for two stints as it was always going to be difficult to manage those. Softs-Mediums-Softs could have given a better margin than what it was in the end.
Why put more stress through the car than you need to? If you can drive half a second a lap off your ultimate pace and still pull a gap, doing anymore is just silly.
I don't think he would be stressing the car anymore with Softs and Mediums, instead of Mediums and Hards. He could have gone with the same engine stress, but gaining more time!

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:50
Hopefully Alpha Tauri protest the race result to get the penalty overturned
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AMG.Tzan wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 17:05
Anyone with an answer as to why Ferrari pitted Leclerc on Hards on Lap 17?? He could easily have gone to Lap 35-40!
Unless he was suffering from graining with the heavy fuel load, I can't see any explanation. And I have heard nothing supporting this hypothesis

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So George passed absolutely nobody off track then.

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mendis wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 17:06
Just_a_fan wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:59
mendis wrote:
04 Jun 2023, 16:47
What a dominant win for Max! He finally got a good start, despite being on the slower tyre! I didn't understand why RB went with Mediums and Hards for two stints as it was always going to be difficult to manage those. Softs-Mediums-Softs could have given a better margin than what it was in the end.
Why put more stress through the car than you need to? If you can drive half a second a lap off your ultimate pace and still pull a gap, doing anymore is just silly.
I don't think he would be stressing the car anymore with Softs and Mediums, instead of Mediums and Hards. He could have gone with the same engine stress, but gaining more time!
He would have been cornering at a higher speed. That would put more load through the car.
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