Ferrari SF-24 speculation

[AR3-GP]

iirc, Mercedes introduced the single beam construction upper control arm on their monaco updated W14.

[Luscion]

Article goes over what to expect and what not to from the SF-24, comparison pictures to that of the VF-24 and C44

https://formu1a.uno/anticipazioni-sulla ... antottore/

[gordonthegun]

Today Haas shakedown in Silverstone has shown the actual car suspensions which are shared with the SF-24.
Different geometries, but again push/pull, according to the journalists who could see well.

In the video below we can see the front suspension, different from the one in the renders.

[ing.]

Today Haas shakedown in Silverstone has shown the actual car suspensions which are shared with SF-24.
Different geometries, but again push/pull, according to the journalists who could see well.

In the video below we can see the front suspension, different from the one in the renders.

High-mounted upper wishbone forward pick-up is noticeable.

Curious to understand why they stayed with existing suspension layouts when other teams found benefits going in the opposite direction: other teams just copied RB? Ferrari stubborn and a case of NHI (not invented here)? Ferrari found something the others missed (doubtful)? Or, budget reasons? If the latter and they left performance on the table, would be quite disappointing.

[gordonthegun]

2 frames from the Haas shakedown video:

[f1motta]

From Sky Sport video - looks like it was "project 676" in the tunnel:

[Farnborough]

iirc, Mercedes introduced the single beam construction upper control arm on their monaco updated W14.

I can't determine that from images I can find, but probably for the Merc W15 speculative thread anyway.

[Xyz22]

I'm not ready for a year in which everyone will say that the car is not quick enough because of the pull rod rear suspension (which only Ferrari and Haas will have apparently)

[ing.]

From Sky Sport video - looks like it was "project 676" in the tunnel:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGEwsVDWAAA ... name=large

0.5 mm of rake!

That mosaic of little red bits must be a representation of the configuration of the test model with all the different aero elements that are swapped in/out for evaluation.

[Vanja #66]

Tap points are pressure sensor points, there is a whole heap of them on WT models and especially on suction surfaces. The red image shows their array on that particular run, light orange (or yellow?) points show exact position of each sensor tap.

[LM10]

I'm not ready for a year in which everyone will say that the car is not quick enough because of the pull rod rear suspension (which only Ferrari and Haas will have apparently)

Every car which has been revealed so far (except the Haas) had a push rod at the rear last season already. We don’t know what Mercedes will come up with, do we?

[Xyz22]

I'm not ready for a year in which everyone will say that the car is not quick enough because of the pull rod rear suspension (which only Ferrari and Haas will have apparently)

Every car which has been revealed so far (except the Haas) had a push rod at the rear last season already. We don’t know what Mercedes will come up with, do we?

Not officially.
According to some sources (i.e. Formu1a.uno for instance) Mercedes (and therefore AM and Williams) will have a push rod rear suspension.

[PhF1x]

In yesterday's latest episode of documentary "DiscoveRED - Scuderia Ferrari" from Sky Sport (Italy) a lot of design details of the Project 676 (SF-24) have been revealed. All images are captured from the documentary and thus should be considered public information granted by Ferrari for release.

From the images it seems like the 676 bears a very similar concept to the MCL60/AMR23, while the undercut shape of its sidepod inlet resembles somewhat of the RB19 but still inheriting the s-duct from the SF-23. It can also be confirmed that the push-rod front / pull-rod rear suspensions are retained.

The portion inside Ferrari's wind tunnel was taken on Saturday, 14th Oct, 2023, meaning that they provide only a general overview of car's fundamental concept but should by no means represent the finalized design we will see on Feb 13th.

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Now wonder Ferrari struggled with aero in 2020, they look at the wind tunnel with rose tinted glasses. The fact this was in a documentary probably means that the launch sf24 would be different from these images like the rb20 is from the rb18.

I wouldn't take much from these other than it may look like the Aston Martin with the s duct and more cooling

[DoctorRadio]

Ferrari has reportedly built a smaller gearbox-transmission, 2cm on each side as per Nugnes, IIRC at the time Vanja said it was remarkable.

The fact they stay with pull must have to do with the fact that their traction has always been the best and don’t want to lose that quality.
As the push would allow a smaller lower part of the gearbox and Ferrari would have been able to have such gearbox anyway, it would make sense for them to maintain the pull, without wasting resources on a push project.

I also read that the push has a downside for the quality of flow under the rear wing, I read as such in a technical analysis of the new Sauber
“The rear suspension remains push rod: in this case the internal mechanisms are at the top to have a narrow gearbox in the lower part and favor the design of a diffuser capable of generating more aerodynamic load. Sauber also follows the prevailing trend of losing something in the efficiency of the rear wing in favor of the downforce produced by the bottom (which alone is worth about 60% of the total)”.

So it doesn’t look black and white at the rear, it mostly depends on what the technical director prioritizes.

[gordonthegun]

From the shakedown:
Here the rear suspension is more visible. Looks like pull-rod.