2012 Testing - Barcelona 2: 21-24 Feb

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I doubt whether any test will give a definite answer. Look at what happened last year. Michael topped the final test. He couldn't match that time during Q2 in the Spanish GP. We all know how the season unfolded. The tests just fulfill our appetites for F1, thats all :)
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spadeflush wrote:I doubt whether any test will give a definite answer. Look at what happened last year. Michael topped the final test. He couldn't match that time during Q2 in the Spanish GP. We all know how the season unfolded. The tests just fulfill our appetites for F1, thats all :)
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MSC on hard tyre according to AMuS...Autosport seem to be stuck with their finger in their ass...sometimes they are a useless bunch.

1:28.852 (121)
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More could have been done.
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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Red Bull again, McLaren then maybe Mercedes and Ferrari then the rest.

Yeah, for me I think the most interesting information comes from observers who know what a good and a bad car look like. Even they can be fooled by car weights, tyres, etc. From what I've read here and there that would put RB and McLaren in a good place, possibly Renault as well (if it wasn't broke).

Haven't seen much chat about the Mercedes yet, regarding it's stability, breaking, etc, TBH. Still sounds like Ferrari need to do a bit more work on getting the setup of that fancy front end sorted.

In addition, teams can have breakthroughs between testing and the season proper. Take McLaren last year, for instance.
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Schumacher completed 66 lap race simulation.

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spadeflush wrote:I doubt whether any test will give a definite answer. Look at what happened last year. Michael topped the final test. He couldn't match that time during Q2 in the Spanish GP. We all know how the season unfolded. The tests just fulfill our appetites for F1, thats all :)
the fastest car on the grid are most unlikely to top the per-season testing as the element of surprise during the first few fly away races are crucial.

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horse wrote:
JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Red Bull again, McLaren then maybe Mercedes and Ferrari then the rest.

Yeah, for me I think the most interesting information comes from observers who know what a good and a bad car look like. Even they can be fooled by car weights, tyres, etc. From what I've read here and there that would put RB and McLaren in a good place, possibly Renault as well (if it wasn't broke).

Haven't seen much chat about the Mercedes yet, regarding it's stability, breaking, etc, TBH. Still sounds like Ferrari need to do a bit more work on getting the setup of that fancy front end sorted.

In addition, teams can have breakthroughs between testing and the season proper. Take McLaren last year, for instance.
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CHT wrote:
spadeflush wrote:I doubt whether any test will give a definite answer. Look at what happened last year. Michael topped the final test. He couldn't match that time during Q2 in the Spanish GP. We all know how the season unfolded. The tests just fulfill our appetites for F1, thats all :)
the fastest car on the grid are most unlikely to top the per-season testing as the element of surprise during the first few fly away races are crucial.
most probably, yes.
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The McLaren and Mercedes drop offs are near identical at 1.5 seconds after 16 laps.

The times distorted by the difference in fuel load.
More could have been done.
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CHT wrote:
if all else fail, control-C control-V
=D> =D>
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These lap times from MSC at least look consistent, I don't think we can expect anything more now from a team that only unveiled their car 2 days ago. I find comfort in the knowledge that they completed 122 laps today without major issues that could indicate a serious flaw, without freakin' gills or holes etc. I think Merc can only improve from here, and I also believe MSC's contribution is immense, his times are consistent, his abilities well known and being able to do that at age 43 is certainly something important. If I were to risk a prediction, I would say that the W03 is no more than 0.8s per lap slower than Red Bull, and if the car development plan works as it is supposed to, it could help both Nico and MSC get on the podium.
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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:The McLaren and Mercedes drop offs are near identical at 1.5 seconds after 16 laps.

The times distorted by the difference in fuel load.
did you compare the drop off between button and lewis? Might be interesting to see who will have the upper hand this season when it comes down to tyres.

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I think it's safe to say the Merc was running a little bit more fuel than RB8.

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I hope that Micheal does a super soft qualifying run before the day is over.

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Red flag Mike in the W03
It looks like he just ran it out of gas, or ????
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