2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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M840TR wrote:Seidl:
Everyone stays ultra-focussed for Canada where our aim is to have both cars in the points
Maybe the team expects Montreal better suited for the car.
They do... Earlier in the season I made a comment that if the team considered the amount of “high downforce” tracks versus the “low downforce” tracks, they would overall have more potential for point scoring opportunities and they seemed to have done just that.

In previous seasons, we were all hoping for a good result in Monaco, Hungary and Singapore, where top speed and efficiency weren’t key and looking from the outside for most of the other tracks and with not a lot of hope for tracks like Baku, Canada, France, Monza or Spa... This year, it is the opposite... Not expecting a lot from high downforce tracks and hoping to do well in the power tracks.

Between the high efficiency/low drag concept and the reported added power from the Renault PU, it isn’t silly to think about good results in the following races.

The issue with the lack of grip on high downforce tracks isn’t necessarily related to the downforce level itself, it is related to not generating enough heat / energy for the tires to be at their optimum... This negative effect should actually boost the car even more in low downforce tracks since it should allow them to preserve the tires better also.


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SmallSoldier wrote:
26 May 2019, 20:23
M840TR wrote:Seidl:
Everyone stays ultra-focussed for Canada where our aim is to have both cars in the points
Maybe the team expects Montreal better suited for the car.
They do... Earlier in the season I made a comment that if the team considered the amount of “high downforce” tracks versus the “low downforce” tracks, they would overall have more potential for point scoring opportunities and they seemed to have done just that.

In previous seasons, we were all hoping for a good result in Monaco, Hungary and Singapore, where top speed and efficiency weren’t key and looking from the outside for most of the other tracks and with not a lot of hope for tracks like Baku, Canada, France, Monza or Spa... This year, it is the opposite... Not expecting a lot from high downforce tracks and hoping to do well in the power tracks.

Between the high efficiency/low drag concept and the reported added power from the Renault PU, it isn’t silly to think about good results in the following races.

The issue with the lack of grip on high downforce tracks isn’t necessarily related to the downforce level itself, it is related to not generating enough heat / energy for the tires to be at their optimum... This negative effect should actually boost the car even more in low downforce tracks since it should allow them to preserve the tires better also.


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I think we can add Austria to the list of potentially favourable tracks, right?
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Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:15
Hands up if you thought we’d leave Monte Carlo with 8 points
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Ground Effect wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
26 May 2019, 20:23
M840TR wrote:Seidl:
Maybe the team expects Montreal better suited for the car.
They do... Earlier in the season I made a comment that if the team considered the amount of “high downforce” tracks versus the “low downforce” tracks, they would overall have more potential for point scoring opportunities and they seemed to have done just that.

In previous seasons, we were all hoping for a good result in Monaco, Hungary and Singapore, where top speed and efficiency weren’t key and looking from the outside for most of the other tracks and with not a lot of hope for tracks like Baku, Canada, France, Monza or Spa... This year, it is the opposite... Not expecting a lot from high downforce tracks and hoping to do well in the power tracks.

Between the high efficiency/low drag concept and the reported added power from the Renault PU, it isn’t silly to think about good results in the following races.

The issue with the lack of grip on high downforce tracks isn’t necessarily related to the downforce level itself, it is related to not generating enough heat / energy for the tires to be at their optimum... This negative effect should actually boost the car even more in low downforce tracks since it should allow them to preserve the tires better also.


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I think we can add Austria to the list of potentially favourable tracks, right?
Yes, Austria could be another good track for the team.

There are a lot of positive things to be excited about for the rest of the season:

A) The is working better “as a team”, the strategy calls are good, the pitstops are excellent... Good additions to the team (Seidl, Key)... The foundation is solid.

B) The car is responding well to changes in setup and upgrades and that’s always encouraging and those updates are coming at a good pace from the factory.

C) The drivers are both doing a good job, they aren’t making a ton of mistakes and like showed in Monaco, taking advantage of the opportunities that present themselves.

D) They have turned what was a big weakness in previous seasons (top speed) into one of the strengths this season.

E) There isn’t any political issues or infighting, a united front is what they need in order to focus on moving upwards.

Even though the goal is to fight with the top 3, this is the best season they have had in the last 4-5 years.


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GoranF1 wrote:
26 May 2019, 20:59
Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:15
Hands up if you thought we’d leave Monte Carlo with 8 points
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Wow, just watched this on replay as I missed it earlier.
Glad to see Sainz put in a top performance, really happy with that. Norris was unlucky, I was desperate for him to round out the points but it wasn't to be.

It looks like Mclaren did get to the bottom of the setup issues after Barca and corrected it for Monaco. I'd like to think this is going to make us a little more competitive everywhere.

However, we aren't the fourth fastest car at Monaco and great result aside, there is still work to do. I'm looking forward to Canada, not just because the Renault engine has been turned up again but because we haven't yet seen just what the Barca updates can do in anger. I have a feeling that despite having a slower car in Qualy than race, we will be outright 4th fastest in Qualy but have the pace to mug Red Bull on the straights come race time. 5th will not be impossible there.

I'd also like to think that from here in in, we are going to put clear daylight between us and those behind.

I think that at all 4 upcoming GPs we will be very competitive. Fingers crossed everyone, this looks like we might be on our way to the front.

4th of course, is nothing to be proud of for Mclaren in the grand scheme of things, but with more sponsorship and more prize money, then we have a decent chance of pushing harder next year.

Time to keep our ears to the ground to see if there are updates for Canada.
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SmallSoldier wrote:
26 May 2019, 21:00
Ground Effect wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
26 May 2019, 20:23


They do... Earlier in the season I made a comment that if the team considered the amount of “high downforce” tracks versus the “low downforce” tracks, they would overall have more potential for point scoring opportunities and they seemed to have done just that.

In previous seasons, we were all hoping for a good result in Monaco, Hungary and Singapore, where top speed and efficiency weren’t key and looking from the outside for most of the other tracks and with not a lot of hope for tracks like Baku, Canada, France, Monza or Spa... This year, it is the opposite... Not expecting a lot from high downforce tracks and hoping to do well in the power tracks.

Between the high efficiency/low drag concept and the reported added power from the Renault PU, it isn’t silly to think about good results in the following races.

The issue with the lack of grip on high downforce tracks isn’t necessarily related to the downforce level itself, it is related to not generating enough heat / energy for the tires to be at their optimum... This negative effect should actually boost the car even more in low downforce tracks since it should allow them to preserve the tires better also.


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I think we can add Austria to the list of potentially favourable tracks, right?
Yes, Austria could be another good track for the team.

There are a lot of positive things to be excited about for the rest of the season:

A) The is working better “as a team”, the strategy calls are good, the pitstops are excellent... Good additions to the team (Seidl, Key)... The foundation is solid.

B) The car is responding well to changes in setup and upgrades and that’s always encouraging and those updates are coming at a good pace from the factory.

C) The drivers are both doing a good job, they aren’t making a ton of mistakes and like showed in Monaco, taking advantage of the opportunities that present themselves.

D) They have turned what was a big weakness in previous seasons (top speed) into one of the strengths this season.

E) There isn’t any political issues or infighting, a united front is what they need in order to focus on moving upwards.

Even though the goal is to fight with the top 3, this is the best season they have had in the last 4-5 years.


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Boiling it down on a technical note, this is not a complex car in the bargeboard area, there is tons of work to do. Yet it is very slippy and very fast.

So how much further forward they can go depends on their development choices, but so far they haven't put a foot wrong and you wouldn't argue against the finishing the season with a car near Red Bull.
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GoranF1 wrote:
26 May 2019, 20:59
Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:15
Hands up if you thought we’d leave Monte Carlo with 8 points
If you wonder how to as a Mclaren fan lower your standards call Ground effect at 045617834.
Oh Goran, you're such a Debbie Downer! :mrgreen:

If we are to suffer the pain of the fall, why not enjoy the rise too?

C'mon, remove some grey from your soul and crack a smile at our success!
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So guys, after this good result in Monaco, do you think we'll be competitive in Canada?

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Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:01
GoranF1 wrote:
26 May 2019, 16:41
Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 16:33


Yes, like he’ll win in Indy later to... Oh wait...
Did Mclaren screwed him up in Indy?
Yeah, but super Alonso should at least qualify with a bad car, even if he can’t win.... Also, not crashing would help too... Look, I’m a Fernando fan, he’s actually my favourite of all time. But you keep coming on here saying what he would do with this or that. He’s left the team, get behind the new drivers and stop comparing them to him.... That said, I know you’re trolling, so no worries..
Maybe you realize how's the state of affairs in Indy 500? You're constantly in the verge of spinning and McLaren themselves admitted their huge mistakes and how wrong they got it. The car was undriveable and u wanna throw the crash to Alonso? Also after the crash, if you have watched the insight video, despite they were ready they were finding other issues and were barely running. Also go check that even 0.1km/h could be plenty of places in Indy 500 and then check how wrong McLaren got it. McLaren joined Indy 500 for the 1st ever time after ages and with a very rushed program so couldn't get any worse. Hopefully though they will keep learning and become better and better.

Anyway, amazing result in Monaco today, considering the expectations. Hopefully will do just fine in Canada. Only worry is that Canada should be quite front-limited since u need a very good front-end to attack the chicanes. But from Monaco I think we can summarize that the car has already improved in that front since Melbourne.

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ALO_Power wrote:
26 May 2019, 22:35
Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:01
GoranF1 wrote:
26 May 2019, 16:41


Did Mclaren screwed him up in Indy?
Yeah, but super Alonso should at least qualify with a bad car, even if he can’t win.... Also, not crashing would help too... Look, I’m a Fernando fan, he’s actually my favourite of all time. But you keep coming on here saying what he would do with this or that. He’s left the team, get behind the new drivers and stop comparing them to him.... That said, I know you’re trolling, so no worries..
Maybe you realize how's the state of affairs in Indy 500? You're constantly in the verge of spinning and McLaren themselves admitted their huge mistakes and how wrong they got it. The car was undriveable and u wanna throw the crash to Alonso? Also after the crash, if you have watched the insight video, despite they were ready they were finding other issues and were barely running. Also go check that even 0.1km/h could be plenty of places in Indy 500 and then check how wrong McLaren got it. McLaren joined Indy 500 for the 1st ever time after ages and with a very rushed program so couldn't get any worse. Hopefully though they will keep learning and become better and better.

Anyway, amazing result in Monaco today, considering the expectations. Hopefully will do just fine in Canada. Only worry is that Canada should be quite front-limited since u need a very good front-end to attack the chicanes. But from Monaco I think we can summarize that the car has already improved in that front since Melbourne.
I have zero issues with Fernando and the IndyCar debacle is well documented, he was an unfortunate passenger in the McLaren train wreck, none of it was his fault. I’m specifically pointing out to GoranF1 who believes Fernando is a god, and could beat our present drivers while in wheelbarrow. He constantly bashes them, even when they have good results and show grit. It’s always, “Fernando would have won today, Fernando would go 6 tenths quicker, Carlos is average, Lando is there because his father is rich”. My pointing out Fernando’s crash was to show that every driver makes mistakes, and Fernando being Fernando actually said it was his mistake and apologised to the team.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
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Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 22:52
ALO_Power wrote:
26 May 2019, 22:35
Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:01


Yeah, but super Alonso should at least qualify with a bad car, even if he can’t win.... Also, not crashing would help too... Look, I’m a Fernando fan, he’s actually my favourite of all time. But you keep coming on here saying what he would do with this or that. He’s left the team, get behind the new drivers and stop comparing them to him.... That said, I know you’re trolling, so no worries..
Maybe you realize how's the state of affairs in Indy 500? You're constantly in the verge of spinning and McLaren themselves admitted their huge mistakes and how wrong they got it. The car was undriveable and u wanna throw the crash to Alonso? Also after the crash, if you have watched the insight video, despite they were ready they were finding other issues and were barely running. Also go check that even 0.1km/h could be plenty of places in Indy 500 and then check how wrong McLaren got it. McLaren joined Indy 500 for the 1st ever time after ages and with a very rushed program so couldn't get any worse. Hopefully though they will keep learning and become better and better.

Anyway, amazing result in Monaco today, considering the expectations. Hopefully will do just fine in Canada. Only worry is that Canada should be quite front-limited since u need a very good front-end to attack the chicanes. But from Monaco I think we can summarize that the car has already improved in that front since Melbourne.
I have zero issues with Fernando and the IndyCar debacle is well documented, he was an unfortunate passenger in the McLaren train wreck, none of it was his fault. I’m specifically pointing out to GoranF1 who believes Fernando is a god, and could beat our present drivers while in wheelbarrow. He constantly bashes them, even when they have good results and show grit. It’s always, “Fernando would have won today, Fernando would go 6 tenths quicker, Carlos is average, Lando is there because his father is rich”. My pointing out Fernando’s crash was to show that every driver makes mistakes, and Fernando being Fernando actually said it was his mistake and apologised to the team.
Goran is just trolling everyone who rises to his remarks...
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Again want to emphasize the great job the team did this weekend but also recognize that Norris's stop took 3.5s which likely cost us a point. But Sainz had fastest pitlane time which got us 6th place, so guess it's ok

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Macklaren wrote:
26 May 2019, 23:16
Again want to emphasize the great job the team did this weekend but also recognize that Norris's stop took 3.5s which likely cost us a point. But Sainz had fastest pitlane time which got us 6th place, so guess it's ok
I didn’t realise that about Norris stop, 1 second quicker could have been enough. But it’s still a good weekend, and hopefully it’ll be a double points score in Canada.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Ground Effect wrote:
26 May 2019, 23:52
Macklaren wrote:
26 May 2019, 23:16
Again want to emphasize the great job the team did this weekend but also recognize that Norris's stop took 3.5s which likely cost us a point. But Sainz had fastest pitlane time which got us 6th place, so guess it's ok
I didn’t realise that about Norris stop, 1 second quicker could have been enough. But it’s still a good weekend, and hopefully it’ll be a double points score in Canada.
I don't know if 1s would be enough to get away in front of Ricciardo. But if Kimi stay out just 1 more lap...
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