2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[mwillems]

We are for a really good weekend because we never looked good on a friday,we usually come alive in FP3,so I'm optimistic for a back to back wins

Yeah I think so to, but keep your optimism alongside a healthy dose of wait and see what tomorrow brings.

Plenty of times we've all seen it get turned on it's head from a Friday to a Saturday. Conditions change, wrong setup, wind in a different direction, others suddenly finding their time through setup, teams using atypical fuel loads or engine modes...

It could be a big dose of thread wide confirmation bias.

[Macklaren]

Yes. Leclerc beat it by .06 of a second on his next quick lap and Lando was over 7 tenths up so I rounded it.

Leclerc then improved not by 0.06, but by almost 0.7.

I looked at the telemetry, I'm forgetting. Lando was 7 tenths faster than Leclercs fastest lap on softs at the time he went to the gravel. I did check before I posted, but then forgot that I checked.

https://i.ibb.co/q7F8B3r/Landov-Lec-Softs.png

While this is accurate ( i was looking at telemetry as well) keep in mind that the comparison was against LEC's MED lap and LEC himself improved his time by 7-tenths on his soft run right after. so it would have been close between NOR and LEC if NOR had completed his lap

[mwillems]

Leclerc then improved not by 0.06, but by almost 0.7.

I looked at the telemetry, I'm forgetting. Lando was 7 tenths faster than Leclercs fastest lap on softs at the time he went to the gravel. I did check before I posted, but then forgot that I checked.

https://i.ibb.co/q7F8B3r/Landov-Lec-Softs.png

While this is accurate ( i was looking at telemetry as well) keep in mind that the comparison was against LEC's MED lap and LEC himself improved his time by 7-tenths on his soft run right after. so it would have been close between NOR and LEC if NOR had completed his lap

No it is against Leclercs Soft lap... I did a direct comparison between Lando's lap before he aborted and the soft lap Leclerc completed moments later. The telemetry I posted for both drivers was from Lap 9. I just totally forgot that when Tomsky was talking about the gap. But it is understandable because we were 5 tenths up after S2 on the medium time. This is why I say that he did not need to go faster in Sector 3, he needed to ease off a little.



It was a mighty lap.

[taperoo2k]

Newey is heading to McLaren. Eddie Jordan slip of tongue!!!

He could always have just misspoke genuinely.

Jordan is Newey's manager, he's either genuinely let something slip or is trying to put the frighteners on Ferrari.

I was thinking that if we could sign him then we would. But £20m is a lot of money to find. But then he knows everything about how to make the car a title winner.

If say McLaren wants to get serious about winning Lemans then they'd hire Newey to work on a car for that, alongside F1. Allowing McLaren to split how they pay him, the FIA can't really complain if Newey produces a winning Lemans car for McLaren and a winning F1 car.

I think however Newey is probably Ferrari bound. But a return to McLaren wouldn't be too surprising, given Zak Brown's powers of persuasion.

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[mwillems]

Newey is heading to McLaren. Eddie Jordan slip of tongue!!!

He could always have just misspoke genuinely.

Jordan is Newey's manager, he's either genuinely let something slip or is trying to put the frighteners on Ferrari.

I was thinking that if we could sign him then we would. But £20m is a lot of money to find. But then he knows everything about how to make the car a title winner.

If say McLaren wants to get serious about winning Lemans then they'd hire Newey to work on a car for that, alongside F1. Allowing McLaren to split how they pay him, the FIA can't really complain if Newey produces a winning Lemans car for McLaren and a winning F1 car.

I think however Newey is probably Ferrari bound. But a return to McLaren wouldn't be too surprising, given Zak Brown's powers of persuasion.

As I said from the start. Never say never. Mclaren is on the rise, income is up, we have drivers for the future and a great set of folks at base and we're the type of level headed team that avoids the drama if they can and we have Road Cars, F1, Lemans and other series to entertain him, and to top it off he is good friends with Zak. It's actually the kind of template that is made for Newey.

But time will tell what happens, who knows.

[Tomsky]

It was a joke.

[mwillems]

It was a joke.

I have to say he seemed flustered briefly after he said that. It may be a mistake but I don't think he was joking.

[Tomsky]

[Macklaren]

It was a joke.

Is he talking about bicycles? Is that a joke related to the new bicycle range that McLaren announced yesterday? Anyone have a longer clip?

[dialtone]

I looked at the telemetry, I'm forgetting. Lando was 7 tenths faster than Leclercs fastest lap on softs at the time he went to the gravel. I did check before I posted, but then forgot that I checked.

https://i.ibb.co/q7F8B3r/Landov-Lec-Softs.png

While this is accurate ( i was looking at telemetry as well) keep in mind that the comparison was against LEC's MED lap and LEC himself improved his time by 7-tenths on his soft run right after. so it would have been close between NOR and LEC if NOR had completed his lap

No it is against Leclercs Soft lap... I did a direct comparison between Lando's lap before he aborted and the soft lap Leclerc completed moments later. The telemetry I posted for both drivers was from Lap 9. I just totally forgot that when Tomsky was talking about the gap. But it is understandable because we were 5 tenths up after S2 on the medium time. This is why I say that he did not need to go faster in Sector 3, he needed to ease off a little.



It was a mighty lap.

Something is off in the telemetry I think.

Lando was 0.032 faster in S1, 0.133s faster in s2 taken right before t14. Then is t14-15 and rivazza.

So that’s 0.165 faster than lec up to t14, and by telemetry doesn’t lose much in gresini. Then it’s suddenly 0.7s off. Seems more of a timing artifact with the fact that he probably went in too hot and caused the little out.

He was faster though.

[search]

No it is against Leclercs Soft lap... I did a direct comparison between Lando's lap before he aborted and the soft lap Leclerc completed moments later. The telemetry I posted for both drivers was from Lap 9. I just totally forgot that when Tomsky was talking about the gap. But it is understandable because we were 5 tenths up after S2 on the medium time. This is why I say that he did not need to go faster in Sector 3, he needed to ease off a little.

https://i.ibb.co/RH3GQHF/Lap9-Softs.png

It was a mighty lap.

Not sure why, but the delta doesn't always seem to show up accurately, especially on aborted laps. It was a very good lap for sure, but I would think it's impossible that Norris gained 4 tenths under breaking in the penultimate corner, for example.

[Ben1980]

Newey and Zak are mates. Get hom involved in all things Mclaren and he may fancy it, over the ferrari fishbowl.

[FittingMechanics]

For anyone watching it was obvious McLaren had serious pace. Norris looked great whenever he was out. He made his mistake on his fast lap and pitted, but they did that already earlier today when Norris was quick and dived into the pits.

I know it is only Friday but the car looks fast today and McLaren is usually team that looks better on Saturday/Sunday.

[FittingMechanics]

Quite surprising to see Eddie Jordan statement - I wouldn't be surprised if he faked the "slipup".

But who knows - maybe McLaren released Sanchez because they knew a bigger fish is coming? I doubt it, but it would be fun to see Newey support the team.