2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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The 3-stage upgrade plan:

Zandvoort aero package
Monza ADUO 2
Austin chassis package

Ferrari's chassis is a benchmark in high speed & braking, but lacks power and traction.

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woocasz wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 20:33


Ferrari's chassis is a benchmark in high speed & braking, but lacks power and traction.

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Autoracer propaganda, case in point.

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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 20:40
woocasz wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 20:33


Ferrari's chassis is a benchmark in high speed & braking, but lacks power and traction.

via AutoRacer
Autoracer propaganda, case in point.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQFxczpXMAA ... =4096x4096


And how does that translate into tenths of a second?

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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 20:40
woocasz wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 20:33


Ferrari's chassis is a benchmark in high speed & braking, but lacks power and traction.

via AutoRacer
Autoracer propaganda, case in point.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQFxczpXMAA ... =4096x4096


Does this analysis consider battery recharging, super-clipping, etc? An area Mercedes have a clear advantage in, and thus can probably afford to LiCo/recharge less through high-speed corners than other teams. The drivers have incessantly spoke of the need to recharge (particularly through high-speed sections), and this something you've alluded to frequently when discussing the elements of this formula you don't like, but is this analysis weighing it?

McLaren, Norris, and Stella have spoken repeatedly about Ferrari having - in their estimation - the best chassis. Are they bluffing? Do they have access to different data? How do you reconcile that?

Mercedes has a considerable PU advantage (regardless of what Wolff says) and this obviously has implications across the board when it comes to pace. The notion that a single chart showing average high-speed cornering speed, ignoring PU differences, can accurately determine the benchmark chassis (or aerodynamic) package, is really quite simplistic and reductive, especially in this particular engine formula.

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catent wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 23:08
AR3-GP wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 20:40
woocasz wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 20:33


Ferrari's chassis is a benchmark in high speed & braking, but lacks power and traction.

via AutoRacer
Autoracer propaganda, case in point.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQFxczpXMAA ... =4096x4096


Does this analysis consider battery recharging, super-clipping, etc? An area Mercedes have a clear advantage in, and thus can probably afford to LiCo/recharge less through high-speed corners than other teams. The drivers have incessantly spoke of the need to recharge (particularly through high-speed sections), and this something you've alluded to frequently when discussing the elements of this formula you don't like, but is this analysis weighing it?

McLaren, Norris, and Stella have spoken repeatedly about Ferrari having - in their estimation - the best chassis. Are they bluffing? Do they have access to different data? How do you reconcile that?

Mercedes has a considerable PU advantage (regardless of what Wolff says) and this obviously has implications across the board when it comes to pace. The notion that a single chart showing average high-speed cornering speed, ignoring PU differences, can accurately determine the benchmark chassis (or aerodynamic) package, is really quite simplistic and reductive, especially in this particular engine formula.
The posts said "fast corners". Blanchimont is considered a corner? If it is, statistics like this are useless, because we know that Ferrari struggles with the super clipping more than the others and mercedes has the advantage there. So, a quick corner that you can do at full speed and with the battery in recharge, is enough to invalidate that statistics. Ferrari is the best in the corners. Mercedes is not so far away.

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Sbrillo88 wrote:
20 Aug 2026, 10:46
catent wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 23:08
AR3-GP wrote:
19 Aug 2026, 20:40


Autoracer propaganda, case in point.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQFxczpXMAA ... =4096x4096


Does this analysis consider battery recharging, super-clipping, etc? An area Mercedes have a clear advantage in, and thus can probably afford to LiCo/recharge less through high-speed corners than other teams. The drivers have incessantly spoke of the need to recharge (particularly through high-speed sections), and this something you've alluded to frequently when discussing the elements of this formula you don't like, but is this analysis weighing it?

McLaren, Norris, and Stella have spoken repeatedly about Ferrari having - in their estimation - the best chassis. Are they bluffing? Do they have access to different data? How do you reconcile that?

Mercedes has a considerable PU advantage (regardless of what Wolff says) and this obviously has implications across the board when it comes to pace. The notion that a single chart showing average high-speed cornering speed, ignoring PU differences, can accurately determine the benchmark chassis (or aerodynamic) package, is really quite simplistic and reductive, especially in this particular engine formula.
The posts said "fast corners". Blanchimont is considered a corner? If it is, statistics like this are useless, because we know that Ferrari struggles with the super clipping more than the others and mercedes has the advantage there. So, a quick corner that you can do at full speed and with the battery in recharge, is enough to invalidate that statistics. Ferrari is the best in the corners. Mercedes is not so far away.
There is the obvious explanation.

So, this is junk data, essentially (insofar as what it claims to mean).

Thank you.

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Lewis Hamilton: "The things that I'd asked for ended up getting done over time. I feel like we've had the results, so it shows that it works."

"I feel like we've got the right formula now. Now we're doubling down on that, continuing to improve. Last year, one of the things I said was that Ferrari should be the innovators."
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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Aug 2026, 19:16
Lewis Hamilton: "The things that I'd asked for ended up getting done over time. I feel like we've had the results, so it shows that it works."

"I feel like we've got the right formula now. Now we're doubling down on that, continuing to improve. Last year, one of the things I said was that Ferrari should be the innovators."
Glad he said that to Ferrari, without him, they would have launched their car from last year!!!

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Hamilton, with his years of experience in F1, is the real GOAT of marketing himself to the media/world, really really well. No wonder he rakes in the millions/billions/gazillions.

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I always thought Lewis was a bit of a manchild and he did more damage than good with this "media-pleas" over the years. Particularly back in the McLaren era.

There's just a point in this sport where you have to concede a driver is a legend whether you like him or not, even if you believe your favorite is better. Lewis is one of the most decorated drivers in the sport. Holds many records to his name. Was very close to getting an 8th which would have put him in a tier of his own in those rankings. Guy has a couple of bad seasons as an "old man" and suddenly everyone forgot how consistent he was during his domination era. If we had judged Schumacher on his 2010-2012 stint only, everyone would have written him off already. But I suppose not unlike other drivers as well, people will learn to appreciate him more once he has left for a couple of years.

At this point, if there is a reason why he gets the gazillions, is because there is no other driver with his credentials in the grid at the moment. Not because he is a good marketing agent for himself.
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There is no doubt that Ferrari have implemented engineering solutions with Hamilton pushing for them. CI brakes would be incredibly obvious but I believe that's just one of many. Hamilton was instrumental to getting Mercedes to address key deficiencies over their stint of domination

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Max's mega renewal, undoubtedly stuffed with increasingly 'easy' exit clauses toward 2030, hits hard on Ferrari, McLaren, and Mercedes.

Leclerc, Antonelli, and Norris shake off a huge shadow and have a great chance to become undisputed leaders of their teams.
This is one the autoracer writers, by the way...As I said before, they have biases...

https://x.com/LrLucaruocco/status/2090372804327727393

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venkyhere wrote:
20 Aug 2026, 21:09
Hamilton, with his years of experience in F1, is the real GOAT of marketing himself to the media/world, really really well. No wonder he rakes in the millions/billions/gazillions.
All of the era cars he stayed on developing came out to be front running come to think of it.

2007 to 2008 (not counted)
2009 to 2013 basically second fastest car at the end of era
2014 to 2016 - fastest car at end of era
2017 to 2021 - development hobbled by FIA regs but equal top car at end of era
2022 to 2024 - second fastest car at the end of era
2025 - new team, bad car
2026 - new era begins.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 00:40
venkyhere wrote:
20 Aug 2026, 21:09
Hamilton, with his years of experience in F1, is the real GOAT of marketing himself to the media/world, really really well. No wonder he rakes in the millions/billions/gazillions.
All of the era cars he stayed on developing came out to be front running come to think of it.

2007 to 2008 (not counted)
2009 to 2013 basically second fastest car at the end of era
2014 to 2016 - fastest car at end of era
2017 to 2021 - development hobbled by FIA regs but equal top car at end of era
2022 to 2024 - second fastest car at the end of era
2025 - new team, bad car
2026 - new era begins.
you need to put special mention to the special W11 lol

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Hamilton doesn’t develop cars, he drives the cars developed by a big number of aerodynamicists and engineers, complains about handling, to which they respond.

Same as every other driver on the grid.