2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[erudite450]

They found a way to bungle a promising situation and good pace with Leclerc, not sure what that was about. Perhaps it’s because they’ve decided to run the car low and avoid the plank wear through a slow final stint? Seems like the only explanation but that would also require some better qualifying for it to make any sense.

New suspension can’t come soon enough.

When's the new suspension expected?

The last I read it was Silverstone, but who knows. In theory there’s a new floor to come at some point as well - not sure if there’s still (or was ever) a plan to introduce the floor first or, indeed, if it’s possible to bring both/either to Austria - but tbh we don’t really know anything and a lot of the reporting turns out to not be entirely accurate. It does seem clear that new suspension is coming though and that a lot is expected of it.

What's the point at this point? Wouldn't it be better to just shift all resources to next year?

[GrizzleBoy]

When's the new suspension expected?

The last I read it was Silverstone, but who knows. In theory there’s a new floor to come at some point as well - not sure if there’s still (or was ever) a plan to introduce the floor first or, indeed, if it’s possible to bring both/either to Austria - but tbh we don’t really know anything and a lot of the reporting turns out to not be entirely accurate. It does seem clear that new suspension is coming though and that a lot is expected of it.

What's the point at this point? Wouldn't it be better to just shift all resources to next year?

I guess employee WDC position bonuses dont come out of the spending cap.

[f1316]

When's the new suspension expected?

The last I read it was Silverstone, but who knows. In theory there’s a new floor to come at some point as well - not sure if there’s still (or was ever) a plan to introduce the floor first or, indeed, if it’s possible to bring both/either to Austria - but tbh we don’t really know anything and a lot of the reporting turns out to not be entirely accurate. It does seem clear that new suspension is coming though and that a lot is expected of it.

What's the point at this point? Wouldn't it be better to just shift all resources to next year?

They have to know that they’ve fixed the mistake they made with the design of the car in order to have faith in / fix their simulation tools going forward. As far as I know, suspension kinematics are largely unchanged for next year and- while the impact on the car from the underfloor will be different - it’s still vital to have a firm understanding of how your car is working in order to build your future cars. So they can’t ignore this and give up until they know that their fixes worked.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Sounds like an upgrade but not the suspension we're discussing?

[MB_Racer]

Great job from Leclerc to blamed himself for his qualy mistake this weekend. It shows he is very smart and he knows where he needs to work to get better. (Sky sportsF1)

As for Sir LH once again very unlucky this weekend Jesus

[Luscion]

Sounds like an upgrade but not the suspension we're discussing?

probably the floor

[Luscion]

[Xyz22]

The car was embarrassing this weekend, as usual.

[Luscion]

Hamilton

“Of course I’m asking for these things [upgrades]. I don’t know why we haven’t been bringing upgrades, I think we have one hopefully coming soon.”

“The mindset for me, I’m like ‘there’s a lot of changes that need to be made in the system.’ I wish I could tell you what's happening. There's a lot going on in the background.”

“Yeah, I can't say too much about it. There’s so many things I wish I could tell you that could explain the things that have happened this year, the problems we had and what’s going on within the organisation. But my goal is to try and positively influence, try and get change so we can have long term success.”

“There’s a lot of changes that we need. For me it’s that foundation building. We’re not fighting for a championship.”

https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1934360122286846040

[erudite450]

The last I read it was Silverstone, but who knows. In theory there’s a new floor to come at some point as well - not sure if there’s still (or was ever) a plan to introduce the floor first or, indeed, if it’s possible to bring both/either to Austria - but tbh we don’t really know anything and a lot of the reporting turns out to not be entirely accurate. It does seem clear that new suspension is coming though and that a lot is expected of it.

What's the point at this point? Wouldn't it be better to just shift all resources to next year?

They have to know that they’ve fixed the mistake they made with the design of the car in order to have faith in / fix their simulation tools going forward. As far as I know, suspension kinematics are largely unchanged for next year and- while the impact on the car from the underfloor will be different - it’s still vital to have a firm understanding of how your car is working in order to build your future cars. So they can’t ignore this and give up until they know that their fixes worked.

That makes sense.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Hamilton

“Of course I’m asking for these things [upgrades]. I don’t know why we haven’t been bringing upgrades, I think we have one hopefully coming soon.”

“The mindset for me, I’m like ‘there’s a lot of changes that need to be made in the system.’ I wish I could tell you what's happening. There's a lot going on in the background.”

“Yeah, I can't say too much about it. There’s so many things I wish I could tell you that could explain the things that have happened this year, the problems we had and what’s going on within the organisation. But my goal is to try and positively influence, try and get change so we can have long term success.”

“There’s a lot of changes that we need. For me it’s that foundation building. We’re not fighting for a championship.”

He says they need upgrades and I think Leclerc would agree, Vasseur says they don't, more miscommunication going on...

[K1Plus]

Hamilton

“Of course I’m asking for these things [upgrades]. I don’t know why we haven’t been bringing upgrades, I think we have one hopefully coming soon.”

“The mindset for me, I’m like ‘there’s a lot of changes that need to be made in the system.’ I wish I could tell you what's happening. There's a lot going on in the background.”

“Yeah, I can't say too much about it. There’s so many things I wish I could tell you that could explain the things that have happened this year, the problems we had and what’s going on within the organisation. But my goal is to try and positively influence, try and get change so we can have long term success.”

“There’s a lot of changes that we need. For me it’s that foundation building. We’re not fighting for a championship.”

He says they need upgrades and I think Leclerc would agree, Vasseur says they don't, more miscommunication going on...

Is Fred okay?

[venkyhere]

Hamilton

“Of course I’m asking for these things [upgrades]. I don’t know why we haven’t been bringing upgrades, I think we have one hopefully coming soon.”

“The mindset for me, I’m like ‘there’s a lot of changes that need to be made in the system.’ I wish I could tell you what's happening. There's a lot going on in the background.”

“Yeah, I can't say too much about it. There’s so many things I wish I could tell you that could explain the things that have happened this year, the problems we had and what’s going on within the organisation. But my goal is to try and positively influence, try and get change so we can have long term success.”

“There’s a lot of changes that we need. For me it’s that foundation building. We’re not fighting for a championship.”

https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1934360122286846040

So we have one driver on the verge of bursting to tears seeing his dream fall away, another trying to play Moses and wanting the sea to separate for him, a technical team who have no clue whats happening, a TP who thinks nothing is wrong & all these panicking guys need to have a beer, and a management leadership who are probably leaking stories of 'restructuring' the team that they have been restructuring for the past 18-20 yrs and still haven't finished.

Nice.

[Sergej]

This suspension update should really be a make or break update.

[Nani_s23]

This suspension update should really be a make or break update.

I don’t buy it. If they feel suspension upgrade bring them the performance, they could have done it in the last race where the track is more a technical & mechanical.
It would give more feedback on the track than in Sim or factory.

This slow approach is causing panic in the team & drivers too agree they need upgrades. But TP says it other way.

First important step for Ferrari is to improve the communication with the team & PR.