CHT wrote:V12 = Heavy Metal
V10 = Rock
V8 = Pop
V6 = Classic?
Anyway, here is a good comparison between the V6 of 12C and V8 of 458.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9iLTisjpOg
V12 = Beethoven.
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CHT wrote:V12 = Heavy Metal
V10 = Rock
V8 = Pop
V6 = Classic?
Anyway, here is a good comparison between the V6 of 12C and V8 of 458.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9iLTisjpOg
I know it's totally irrelevant, but this particular mclaren is using launch control and is on semi slicks. ferrari uses neither in this run.CHT wrote: Anyway, here is a good comparison between the V6 of 12C and V8 of 458.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9iLTisjpOg
20.000 non racing fans but instead 20.000 people who like noise.Belatti wrote:There were at least 20.000 persons at the stands who after watching National Touring, they left at the 5th lap of the WTCC race. The general comment was: this are not proper race cars.
TV viewers might not notice the difference because the sound engineer doing the broadcasting can always crank up the audio feed by a few notches to make the V6 sound audible. But when watching live, it might be total different experience because I think its pretty normal for spectators to expect the main event to be louder, spectacular and faster around the track, just like F1 has always been.Belatti wrote:Maybe the people who is voting this should firts watch the new cars live. At leaste I will.
Last year I was present at thw WTCC race in Argentina where support race was a National Touring car championship that uses 2 liter NA screamers at 9500rpm in contrast with the silent WTCC turbos.
There were at least 20.000 persons at the stands who after watching National Touring, they left at the 5th lap of the WTCC race. The general comment was: this are not proper race cars.
or allow higher RPM?12C has a V8, not a V6.CHT wrote:V12 = Heavy Metal
V10 = Rock
V8 = Pop
V6 = Classic?
Anyway, here is a good comparison between the V6 of 12C and V8 of 458.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9iLTisjpOg
This sums it up for me Mate:SectorOne wrote:CHT wrote:V12 = Heavy Metal
V10 = Rock
V8 = Pop
V6 = Classic?
Anyway, here is a good comparison between the V6 of 12C and V8 of 458.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9iLTisjpOg
V12 = Beethoven.
Well considering the most popular motorcycle engines seem to be 400-1000cc I don't know how 1600cc becomes smaller.strad wrote:I have no use for these engines or the sound. Damn things are smaller than a motorcycle engine and sound like crap. Contrary to the line the FIA are pushing they are in no way related to anything on the road.
Some people will buy into anything.
I don't think any road car engines are running 500 bars on their DI systems. If that is proven to work in the environment of F1 then of course it will find its way into road cars. The MGU-H is also a thing I could se coming to road car engines. Perhaps not as a MGU but a GU.strad wrote:I have no use for these engines or the sound. Damn things are smaller than a motorcycle engine and sound like crap. Contrary to the line the FIA are pushing they are in no way related to anything on the road.
Some people will buy into anything.
They could start by lowering the ticket's prices.CHT wrote:Belatti wrote:I believe that is what Bernie is worried about. If the race organizer suffer poor ticket sales I think its going to bad for business and I am not sure what they are going to do to rectify it. Perhaps banned GP2 because they are too loud and too fast?
Thats only possible if bernie reduce the hosting fee and thats exactly what bernie is trying to avoid.agip wrote: They could start by lowering the ticket's prices.
I attended some races at the Hungaroring in the V10 and V8 era and I must say, that the F1 cars felt much quieter than the GP2 cars / lower classes (not silent by any means). I was this year at the WSBR race in Spielberg and I have to say that the WSBR cars were much easier on the ears than the ELMS race and I wouldn't want to watch the ELMS live again.CHT wrote:TV viewers might not notice the difference because the sound engineer doing the broadcasting can always crank up the audio feed by a few notches to make the V6 sound audible. But when watching live, it might be total different experience because I think its pretty normal for spectators to expect the main event to be louder, spectacular and faster around the track, just like F1 has always been.Belatti wrote:Maybe the people who is voting this should firts watch the new cars live. At leaste I will.
Last year I was present at thw WTCC race in Argentina where support race was a National Touring car championship that uses 2 liter NA screamers at 9500rpm in contrast with the silent WTCC turbos.
There were at least 20.000 persons at the stands who after watching National Touring, they left at the 5th lap of the WTCC race. The general comment was: this are not proper race cars.
I believe that is what Bernie is worried about. If the race organizer suffer poor ticket sales I think its going to bad for business and I am not sure what they are going to do to rectify it. Perhaps banned GP2 because they are too loud and too fast?