The same as now - to get from A to B. Just becasue it's autonomous doesn't mean it can't be expensive / blingy / in-your-face or whatever other thing people currently want their cars to be.
The same as now - to get from A to B. Just becasue it's autonomous doesn't mean it can't be expensive / blingy / in-your-face or whatever other thing people currently want their cars to be.
Autonomous cars will be like rent a car, pay a subscription and usageJust_a_fan wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 11:12The same as now - to get from A to B. Just becasue it's autonomous doesn't mean it can't be expensive / blingy / in-your-face or whatever other thing people currently want their cars to be.
Status is a beautiful AMG or an Audi or a BMW that magically appears seconds before you require it, transports you in luxury to wherever you want to go in the most efficient, smoothest and safest way possible, drops you at your destination, parks itself in the cheapest location possible and then magically reappears when you need to get to your next location.FrukostScones wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 10:17...Also they want status (and a car, posh car is still the main status symbol all over the world), what is the point of and AMG autonomous that is going at the speed limit guided by big brother? ...
I don't think that in a near future there will be a real autonomous car. Yes, a Tesla can drive it self, but you are still the driver, and it's not 100% safe. You cannot take a nap, or working on a laptop while the car takes you to work.Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 12:51In my imaginary perfect world wich will never become true as we all know politicians, autonomous cars will be the vast mayority, and people like myself who enjoy driving will have to pass a way more strict driving licence exam wich does include controlling the car in dangerous situations, but once passed there won´t be ridiculously slow speed limits wich even the police break as they´re way too slow, so those with a driving licence wich will be a minority won´t be forced to go as if we all are carrying 1000kg of nitroglycerine into the car
But there are A LOT of people who don´t like driving, and who I don´t like them driving as they´re VERY dangerous. I´m including my mom (72) and my best friend into this group. With people like them with an autonomous car, all of us will be safer when on the road, they will be VERY happy to keep the freedom a car provides but without driving wich they don´t like at all, and speed limits won´t need to be so low because people who is dangerous at the wheel won´t be at the wheel anymore
@strad, as you've started this thread perhaps you can help define 'near future' for us?
Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 12:51In my imaginary perfect world wich will never become true as we all know politicians, autonomous cars will be the vast mayority, and people like myself who enjoy driving will have to pass a way more strict driving licence exam wich does include controlling the car in dangerous situations, but once passed there won´t be ridiculously slow speed limits wich even the police break as they´re way too slow, so those with a driving licence wich will be a minority won´t be forced to go as if we all are carrying 1000kg of nitroglycerine into the car
But there are A LOT of people who don´t like driving, and who I don´t like them driving as they´re VERY dangerous. I´m including my mom (72) and my best friend into this group. With people like them with an autonomous car, all of us will be safer when on the road, they will be VERY happy to keep the freedom a car provides but without driving wich they don´t like at all, and speed limits won´t need to be so low because people who is dangerous at the wheel won´t be at the wheel anymore
Agree, if you notice I´ve never said a word about fast or slow drivers, but about dangerous ones. Actually I agree many fast drivers are the most dangerous, but there are also slow ones who are dangerous. My mother for example and she barely reach the speed limitsBig Tea wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 15:28Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 12:51In my imaginary perfect world wich will never become true as we all know politicians, autonomous cars will be the vast mayority, and people like myself who enjoy driving will have to pass a way more strict driving licence exam wich does include controlling the car in dangerous situations, but once passed there won´t be ridiculously slow speed limits wich even the police break as they´re way too slow, so those with a driving licence wich will be a minority won´t be forced to go as if we all are carrying 1000kg of nitroglycerine into the car
But there are A LOT of people who don´t like driving, and who I don´t like them driving as they´re VERY dangerous. I´m including my mom (72) and my best friend into this group. With people like them with an autonomous car, all of us will be safer when on the road, they will be VERY happy to keep the freedom a car provides but without driving wich they don´t like at all, and speed limits won´t need to be so low because people who is dangerous at the wheel won´t be at the wheel anymore
Now please do not think this is a barb at you, but look around at other drivers.
How often do the 'fast driver' turn out to be boy/girl racers who other than knowing how to rev the nuts off a car and push the peddle further than anyone with brains claim they are 'fast drivers'.
People who can competently drive quickly are often not those who DO drive fast.
And i have deliberately divided drive quickly from drive fast.
Sorry, but there are autonomous vehicles today.santos wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 13:27I don't think that in a near future there will be a real autonomous car. Yes, a Tesla can drive it self, but you are still the driver, and it's not 100% safe. You cannot take a nap, or working on a laptop while the car takes you to work.Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 12:51In my imaginary perfect world wich will never become true as we all know politicians, autonomous cars will be the vast mayority, and people like myself who enjoy driving will have to pass a way more strict driving licence exam wich does include controlling the car in dangerous situations, but once passed there won´t be ridiculously slow speed limits wich even the police break as they´re way too slow, so those with a driving licence wich will be a minority won´t be forced to go as if we all are carrying 1000kg of nitroglycerine into the car
But there are A LOT of people who don´t like driving, and who I don´t like them driving as they´re VERY dangerous. I´m including my mom (72) and my best friend into this group. With people like them with an autonomous car, all of us will be safer when on the road, they will be VERY happy to keep the freedom a car provides but without driving wich they don´t like at all, and speed limits won´t need to be so low because people who is dangerous at the wheel won´t be at the wheel anymore
We are mixing metaphors so to speak now. The two are completely different horses, which just happen to be passing the post at the same time.strad wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 20:01henry;
Near future? I'd call that 10 years and I don't see AVs making any massive inroads in 10 years. Strides? Yes, and maybe more so in Europe or England but less in the U.S..
As has been pointed out, charge times and range reliability rightly or wrongly play a big part along with cost.
IF you could recharge on a 1200 mile trip as quickly as you can fill up your tank that would eliminate much of the hesitation. But here in the United States millions of people a day drive from say Seattle to Phoenix straight through. From L.A. to New Orleans with a couple of driver changes. That sort of thing.
I do believe those of you younger than me will see the time, but not until they address those problems. Certainly not in my short lifetime left.
I doubt there are millions of people embarking on 1500mi road trips daily. This would require more than one out of every 200 drivers in the US to be doing so.