Alfa Romeo C43

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JordanMugen wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 12:55
Is the downwards kick of the radiator outlet bodywork to increase the effective angle of attack of the beam wing (and upper side of the diffuser)? Will that be changed to a straight radiator outlet to reduce drag on circuits like Monza and Spa?
My guess would be that it is more for the rear wing and also placing the air from the radiator in a more ideal position.

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And there is an odd step on each cockpit side... did they sink the cockpit sides there ? actually one of Mercedes Videos suggests Merc did a similar thing on W14...

Edit: or maybe its just a CGI artifact
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The 2023 rollhoop design is more 2019 C38esque than 2022 C42shy

*Or more C37ish
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So they probably moved some of the sidepod cooling back to the center of the car.
2019:📸F1i/Nicolas Carpentiers - AMuS
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Blackout wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 13:43
The 2023 rollhoop design is more 2019 C38esque than 2022 C42shy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoXIaQhX0AE ... name=small

So they probably moved some of the sidepod cooling back to the center of the car.
2019:📸F1i/Nicolas Carpentiers - AMuS
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoXKG3cWcAA ... me=900x900
Is such a "blade" design even still allowed? I thought it's now required to actually be a hoop.
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Formula Wrong wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 13:51
Blackout wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 13:43
The 2023 rollhoop design is more 2019 C38esque than 2022 C42shy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoXIaQhX0AE ... name=small

So they probably moved some of the sidepod cooling back to the center of the car.
2019:📸F1i/Nicolas Carpentiers - AMuS
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoXKG3cWcAA ... me=900x900
Is such a "blade" design even still allowed? I thought it's now required to actually be a hoop.
It seems they made to top 'rounder' (ie. some curvature, but that's probably little enough for it not to stand out), but also say they made it to withstand the 2024 more stringent (more weight) stress test, rather than only the improved to be nearer to reality, higher impact of the load that the 2023 rules compromised on due to the late moment of the rule, which meant that many teams had already fixed on a roll hoop design by then.

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Venturiation wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 12:57
MtthsMlw wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 12:41
MrGapes wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 12:16
https://ibb.co/fSVgJzH

Am I seeing something else, or is that some sort of cylindrical nozzle coming out of the splitter with a opening on the tip. Presumably for the electronics stored in the inside ofc.
Could be this
https://i.imgur.com/jrFM3XU.jpg
That location might be 'confirmed' in the pres. video at 22:39
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SiLo wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 12:50
Could be the shadow from multiple lights shining on the smaller, three slot cut out that is present ahead of the rear wheel.

Or it is there, and its covered with a black film, like vinyl or something.

I guess those are your two options to explain that.
When the screen in the floor lights up to peak brightness at 23:16 the light might be shining through the slots in the floor
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23:30
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Maybe the just cut simple narrow slots into some simple model floor to imitate the real (?) thing a bit

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So the process is :
=> New suspension and gearbox arrangement
=> Which in turn allows for new cooling arrangement (canon-cooling + a bit of sidepod openings whereas in 2022, it was only sidepod openings)
=> The difference in hot air exit / interference with the rest of the flow allows for a better aerodynamic potential according to Monchaux
They saw it early in 2022 but they were stuck with their concept because of the architectural decisions, hence the plateau in terms of performance.


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RZS10 wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 14:23
Venturiation wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 12:57
MtthsMlw wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 12:41

Could be this
https://i.imgur.com/jrFM3XU.jpg
That location might be 'confirmed' in the pres. video at 22:39
https://i.imgur.com/iQoC8uE.gif
I think you’ll find that it’s a slip sensor.

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With regards to the floor on the launch car, the slots are probably covered with translucent plastic. That’s why you can see shadows underneath them.
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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 14:39
With regards to the floor on the launch car, the slots are probably covered with translucent plastic. That’s why you can see shadows underneath them.
I honestly don't believe they are covered at all, just a flat floor with slots and not as 'extreme' as in the render where it's angled fins sitting at larger gaps ( see 23:41 in the vid, they even appear on the sidepod as stripes of light shining through)
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The floor edge isn’t a loophole, and wasn’t introduced by the new regulations. It’s simply the “floor edge wing” and not the “floor body”. This doesn’t have a limit on Y sections but must be a single X and Z section. It must be R25 concave which dictates the spacing of the “winglets” and is likely why they aren’t closer together like they were on the old cars. The new rules may have may have driven teams in directions like this

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More details, they're going the redbull way


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They are already trying to get rid of the showcar lol

https://auctions.f1authentics.com/iSynA ... DU,38EPH,1

:lol: