2025 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 05 - Sep 07

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Will definitely be interesting to see who goes out first. McLaren would be the logical choice, but that leaves one of their drivers basically without a chance to take pole.

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CjC wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2025, 23:05
I can see Verstappen strongly challenging for this race- certainly for the pole
Half way there.
He’ll be hard to beat tomorrow
Just a fan's point of view

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Not sure how Max pulled that out. Was it a tow?
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Vettel165 wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 13:35
Q3 expecting something like this. I am usually wrong though, but I can try.

1. Max
2. Leclerc
3. Norris
4. Piastri
5. Russel
6. Hamilton
Was wrong about Leclerc but it was very close.

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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 18:11
Not sure how Max pulled that out. Was it a tow?
The same tow effect (not direct tow) that every driver whoever is not the first guy out in a Q session gets. I don't remember who was in front of him (not Tsunoda that I'm sure). The pitcrew-modified-scissors-on-rear-wing change helped remove some load from the already lowDF rear wing. Sacrificed (trusted the driver) S2 and gained in S1 and S3.

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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 18:11
Not sure how Max pulled that out. Was it a tow?
Skill that everyone else lacks.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Tires left for the race:

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Interesting that Williams didn't even use their final set in Q2, but I guess it's because they didn't get the new tires to work at all again, and therefor tried something else.

edit: via my notes and https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... DjfNhn1PWk

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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 18:11
Not sure how Max pulled that out. Was it a tow?
I just re-watched Max's onboard for his pole lap; no other cars in sight at any time, so not a tow. Absolutely smooth on steering inputs with steady smooth unwinding on the exits and no corrections. From the onboard Max made it look easy. Amazing lap.

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venkyhere wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 18:57
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 18:11
Not sure how Max pulled that out. Was it a tow?
The same tow effect (not direct tow) that every driver whoever is not the first guy out in a Q session gets. I don't remember who was in front of him (not Tsunoda that I'm sure). The pitcrew-modified-scissors-on-rear-wing change helped remove some load from the already lowDF rear wing. Sacrificed (trusted the driver) S2 and gained in S1 and S3.
I think he was behind the 2 Mclarens, Lando was behind in the second run, so Norris ahead of Max.
And Verstappen left a reasonably big gap to him.

Given the things Max already does when the car is crap it's not surprising that he does this when he's happy after friday.

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venkyhere wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 15:05
It will take something super-special (lap of the gods) for ferrari to be on the front row.
Damn you know your stuff impressive !

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If its a normal race without much incidents, Max is likely to win this race and sure hope so.
Landon will be under tremendous pressure going into turn 1 with Max alongside as any incident or contact with Max will likely ruin his WDC hope. He cannot afford another DNF,

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Sevach wrote: ↑
07 Sep 2025, 00:11
venkyhere wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 18:57
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
06 Sep 2025, 18:11
Not sure how Max pulled that out. Was it a tow?
The same tow effect (not direct tow) that every driver whoever is not the first guy out in a Q session gets. I don't remember who was in front of him (not Tsunoda that I'm sure). The pitcrew-modified-scissors-on-rear-wing change helped remove some load from the already lowDF rear wing. Sacrificed (trusted the driver) S2 and gained in S1 and S3.
I think he was behind the 2 Mclarens, Lando was behind in the second run, so Norris ahead of Max.
And Verstappen left a reasonably big gap to him.

Given the things Max already does when the car is crap it's not surprising that he does this when he's happy after friday.
I watched the onboard of the pole lap, seems like Max held back behind the Mclarens by more than usual distance (Alonso behind was much closer, as a result) on his outlap, thereby nullifying any chance for a 'tow effect' that others had. From that perspective, his first sector time is super duper impressive.