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Rossi gave Marquez the stare and look to say "what the f**k are you doing?" At which point Marquez leaned into Rossi, Rossi had every right to lift marquez off with his knee. If you watch it carefully are freeze the video at multiple points, I think the foot came off the peg because Marquez leans on Rossi's leg. So your natural reaction is to push/lift Marquez away. Rossi had his foot off the peg and people are saying "He kicked Marquez off"

Marquez was certainly still riding the brake so a sudden jolt on the right arm from Rossi is possibly a reason Marquez snatched the brake causing the crash.

IMO it was a load of minor events coming together at once to make it look like something Major.
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NathanOlder wrote:Rossi gave Marquez the stare and look to say "what the f**k are you doing?" At which point Marquez leaned into Rossi, Rossi had every right to lift marquez off with his knee. If you watch it carefully are freeze the video at multiple points, I think the foot came off the peg because Marquez leans on Rossi's leg. So your natural reaction is to push/lift Marquez away. Rossi had his foot off the peg and people are saying "He kicked Marquez off"

Marquez was certainly still riding the brake so a sudden jolt from Rossi is possibly a reason Marquez snatched the brake causing the crash.

IMO it was a load of minor events coming together at once to make it look like something Major.
And I thought Rossi was asking MM if wants a ride to go to a bar as he was bored to race anyway after Lorenzo was off in a distance. And that is perfectly fine thing to do in the middle of a race isn't it. So stupid of MM that he probably believed that Rossi was done with his invitation and would take the right hander and so he got ready to take the right hander (how does a rider turn without leaning to take the turn? Stupid MM, he needs to learn that), only to realize that Rossi was not done yet with his bar proposal. Rossi realized that MM is not interested to go for a drink and pissed off with a kick (...hick....).

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If Rossi went right out to the white line on the left, I would agree. But he left Marquez 8-10ft yet Marquez was still unable to avoid Rossi.

And as everyone always says, wether its cars or bikes, you must always leave enough room. Rossi left enough room on the outside for the whole HRC Team, and im talking about the team a few years back when they ran 3 bikes!
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NathanOlder wrote:Rossi gave Marquez the stare and look to say "what the f**k are you doing?" At which point Marquez leaned into Rossi, Rossi had every right to lift marquez off with his knee. If you watch it carefully are freeze the video at multiple points, I think the foot came off the peg because Marquez leans on Rossi's leg. So your natural reaction is to push/lift Marquez away. Rossi had his foot off the peg and people are saying "He kicked Marquez off"

Marquez was certainly still riding the brake so a sudden jolt on the right arm from Rossi is possibly a reason Marquez snatched the brake causing the crash.

IMO it was a load of minor events coming together at once to make it look like something Major.
Except you´re ignoring Rossi said himself he only tried to push Marquez wide so he lose some time... :roll:

So no, your theory does not have any sense, he pushed him intentionally, and I´m sayin pushing because that´s what Rossi said and the kick is not clearly visible in any camera, but when he admits that and Marc crashed you don´t need Sherlock Holmes to know what really happened

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Andres125sx wrote:
NathanOlder wrote:Rossi gave Marquez the stare and look to say "what the f**k are you doing?" At which point Marquez leaned into Rossi, Rossi had every right to lift marquez off with his knee. If you watch it carefully are freeze the video at multiple points, I think the foot came off the peg because Marquez leans on Rossi's leg. So your natural reaction is to push/lift Marquez away. Rossi had his foot off the peg and people are saying "He kicked Marquez off"

Marquez was certainly still riding the brake so a sudden jolt on the right arm from Rossi is possibly a reason Marquez snatched the brake causing the crash.

IMO it was a load of minor events coming together at once to make it look like something Major.
Except you´re ignoring Rossi said himself he only tried to push Marquez wide so he lose some time... :roll:

So no, your theory does not have any sense, he pushed him intentionally, and I´m sayin pushing because that´s what Rossi said and the kick is not clearly visible in any camera, but when he admits that and Marc crashed you don´t need Sherlock Holmes to know what really happened
Yeah Rossi said he pushed him wide. Like racers push their competitors wide in corners all the time, whats your point?

Marquez had room and chose to turn in to Rossi. Rossi didnt pick the bike up mid corner. He continued on his trajectory and Marquez turned into him despite having atleast 8ft of track left. Im dnot saying Rossi didnt play games, he was just playing with Marquez like Marquez was playing with Rossi. Both involved, neither innocent, but neither deserved to be punished alone.
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And these are just opinions , one says black blacked in the race, the other says black flagged after the race. I've read Vettel siding with Rossi probably because he works for Ferrari, and Ferrari have a relationship with Vale.
Stoners opinion doesn't mean a lot as he works for.... you guessed it.
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FIM president on the fan backlash:
http://www.fim-live.com/en/article/open ... -ippolito/

TLDR:
deal with it.

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NathanOlder wrote:
Andres125sx wrote:
NathanOlder wrote:Rossi gave Marquez the stare and look to say "what the f**k are you doing?" At which point Marquez leaned into Rossi, Rossi had every right to lift marquez off with his knee. If you watch it carefully are freeze the video at multiple points, I think the foot came off the peg because Marquez leans on Rossi's leg. So your natural reaction is to push/lift Marquez away. Rossi had his foot off the peg and people are saying "He kicked Marquez off"

Marquez was certainly still riding the brake so a sudden jolt on the right arm from Rossi is possibly a reason Marquez snatched the brake causing the crash.

IMO it was a load of minor events coming together at once to make it look like something Major.
Except you´re ignoring Rossi said himself he only tried to push Marquez wide so he lose some time... :roll:

So no, your theory does not have any sense, he pushed him intentionally, and I´m sayin pushing because that´s what Rossi said and the kick is not clearly visible in any camera, but when he admits that and Marc crashed you don´t need Sherlock Holmes to know what really happened
Yeah Rossi said he pushed him wide. Like racers push their competitors wide in corners all the time, whats your point?
He didn´t push him as you were saying, just going wide himself while he was at the outside, he used the leg to push him, wich is completely different
NathanOlder wrote:Marquez had room and chose to turn in to Rossi. Rossi didnt pick the bike up mid corner. He continued on his trajectory and Marquez turned into him despite having atleast 8ft of track left.
False, but even so you only have to look at Rossi just after Marquez crash to see how easily he leaned the bike to return to the racing line, exactly what Marquez was trying but Rossi didn´t allow... and throw the leg

Marquez was not leaning the bike to crash with Rossi, he´s not that stupid, he was in the ouside so he could have only lose himself. It was Rossi who didn´t allow him to return to the line, slowed down on purpose, and kicked Marquez.

Anycase this is enough for me, it is so obvious what Rossi did and he deserved a black flag I´m not sure about the reason I´m discussing with you, so I´ll stop here, now you can continue defending the indefensible if you want

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Juzh wrote:FIM president on the fan backlash:
http://www.fim-live.com/en/article/open ... -ippolito/

TLDR:
deal with it.
Is he begging MM to not let Lorenzo through, if the situation arises? He knows Rossi will probably never make it past the Hondas and if there is an opportunity for Hondas to hold up Lorenzo, they should do so. Isn't that what he is meaning here? OR is he worried that even if Rossi makes a dream ride to come through the field, MM would then take Rossi out?
On behalf of the FIM and all those who are doing their best to bring about a happy conclusion to this Championship, I express the hope that at the next and final round in Valencia the riders will fight it out on the track and in a way that fully respects the spirit of fair play.

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ROSSI moved his leg after Marquez leaned on him. Can we agree on that ?

Rossi never turned left, as you said, Rossi was running wide himself (its not law that you stick to the racing line)
Marquez didnt NEED to turn right because he was out of track. Thats a fact. He may well of run out of track 20 yards on, but at the point on contact Marquez had room to his left.

Because of the previous week with the 2. And Phillip Island this is all blown out of proportion. Im anti Marquez but not a Rossi fan. And I see this as a racing incident blown out of proportion. Rossi didnt kick marquez. He pushed him with his knee. His foot came off the peg after Marquez nudged Rossi's leg.
And here you are Andres reading this despite saying you wont. Dont worry about replying, I wont lose any sleep over it cheeko :wink:
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Autosport reports: Rossi appeals Valencia penalty for MotoGP clash with Marquez

"In appealing to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), Mr Rossi seeks annulment or reduction of the penalty," motorcycle racing's governing body confirmed in a statement.

"He further requests stay of execution of the decision in accordance with Article R37 of the Code of Sports-Related Arbitration."

A date for the hearing has not been disclosed.
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looks like a bigger moto2 bike or presumable a 2015 Honda RCV

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bauc wrote:Autosport reports: Rossi appeals Valencia penalty for MotoGP clash with Marquez

"In appealing to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), Mr Rossi seeks annulment or reduction of the penalty," motorcycle racing's governing body confirmed in a statement.

"He further requests stay of execution of the decision in accordance with Article R37 of the Code of Sports-Related Arbitration."

A date for the hearing has not been disclosed.
Desperation. Has this ever happened before?