Renault Sport Racing and McLaren Racing are pleased to announce they have agreed an engine supply partnership for the 2018, 2019 and 2020 seasons. The deal will see Renault Sport Racing supply McLaren with Formula 1 power units, while also establishing a close working relationship with McLaren’s engineers and technicians.
True. But taking into account that Stoffel delivered quite stable and Alo has a new engine...I think that the 1sec from Stoffel to Ric is the number to look at. This is still a lot more than anything the quite bad Renault in 2014 was lacking to the Merc.
Mclaren would have DEFINITELY had pole if they had a Mercedes PU, right?
The gap is ~60kW, or 80hp, and still another half of a season to improve the power unit. If they can cut the gap to less than a second from pole by Suzuka, I'll consider that a win, it'll put them in a good position for next year, as the regulations will be relatively stable.
They would certainly be closer than merc on this track I think. McLarens chassis has looked extremely stable and with Alonso's magic I think it's definitely not out of the question they could get atleast one car in the top 4 if not top 2. McLaren finds itself in the awkward position of trying to negotiate engine deals while putting in great performances on chassis tracks.
I guess that would depend on how much they can push the development for power gains this year and then have more/less time to focus on reliability.RedNEO wrote: ↑29 Jul 2017, 16:31So unfortunately I was right about them green lighting three engine limit for next year. It's bad news coupled with the introduction of the flip flop device. Honda is having a difficult time as it is trying to squeeze power without even considering engine usage, next year is going to be hell for them if they keep the three engine limit in place. F1's latest decisions are completely bonkers..
Glad you find something I post funny, because when I said your post was laughable I didn't mean funny, I meant ridiculous.godlameroso wrote: ↑29 Jul 2017, 13:25I guess you would know, sorry I ever doubted you. I was simply going by the last 6 races where they've had average pit stops at best, losing about a second compared to the others. But my words are meaningless, let's look at the cold hard facts.RS200E wrote: ↑29 Jul 2017, 06:45godlameroso wrote: ↑29 Jul 2017, 01:26My biggest worry is McLaren getting jumped in the pits, they haven't had great pit stops this season.
Laughable really that anyone would think that, then have the guts to make it into words that other people can read.
My worry is that there will be 2 Honda failures and that fuel saving will be so high that both cars will drop many positions during the race. That's assuming they even make it to a position to drop positions because there's still FP3 and qualy to go.
That's what everyone including McLaren should be worried about.
https://www.formula1.com/en/championshi ... -2017.html
The data says they could definitely be better.
I find funny you talk about fuel saving when Silverstone is a fuel thirsty circuit and they didn't complain about fuel saving then, and Hungary is one of the lowest consumption wise on the calendar. I guess you know something we don't.
I was wrong about the chassis though, McLaren made a hell of a chassis, once that PU gets up to snuff McLaren will be proper competitive.
What's your point in bringing up that old nonsense. Move on.
Finish with 5 PUs. Not so importantRedNEO wrote: ↑29 Jul 2017, 16:31So unfortunately I was right about them green lighting three engine limit for next year. It's bad news coupled with the introduction of the flip flop device. Honda is having a difficult time as it is trying to squeeze power without even considering engine usage, next year is going to be hell for them if they keep the three engine limit in place. F1's latest decisions are completely bonkers..
