2025 McLaren F1 Team

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mwillems wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 13:16
BMMR61 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 12:53

It's telling, in my opinion, that regularly in qualifying, the McLaren's tend to make the final sector of their lap count. It confirms that they keep the tyre alive significantly longer. With the championship position of our guys and giving equal opportunity it poses the question "why not give the leading McLaren driver in the race first opportunity to go for an undercut"? It will be a shame if they just follow in Max's wheel tracks and allow him to dictate the race, dangerous tactics as the Ferraris could spring something with their expected race pace.
In this case Max was slower in the S3 on new tyres than.on used. He just took too much life from S1 and S2 to be able to get the optimal lap.
Depends how seriously you take his comment to GP on the when he passed the finish line that he took S3 a little easier when he saw how much he was up, was up by 0.262s there so it was a decent margin to have then he is pretty aware too in what is being broadcast, would probably take Vanja to go through all the corner by corner traces tried looking at the site he uses can't quite figure it out lol, his Q2 S3 23.329 vs 23.426 both new tyres 23.359 on used, so in Q3 there was a 0.03 S3 seperating the two Q3 laps


Oscar in Q3 his 2 laps
S3 cost time about a tenth on his S3 cost a tenth, Q2 doesn't look like an obvious mistake just didn't improve the difference was 0.006s

I would still take the McLaren duo of any on the grid.

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Some info from Ruth:

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nd a very nice head to head Max vs Oscar. It was sooo close.


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Watto wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 13:52
mwillems wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 13:16
BMMR61 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 12:53

It's telling, in my opinion, that regularly in qualifying, the McLaren's tend to make the final sector of their lap count. It confirms that they keep the tyre alive significantly longer. With the championship position of our guys and giving equal opportunity it poses the question "why not give the leading McLaren driver in the race first opportunity to go for an undercut"? It will be a shame if they just follow in Max's wheel tracks and allow him to dictate the race, dangerous tactics as the Ferraris could spring something with their expected race pace.
In this case Max was slower in the S3 on new tyres than.on used. He just took too much life from S1 and S2 to be able to get the optimal lap.
Depends how seriously you take his comment to GP on the when he passed the finish line that he took S3 a little easier when he saw how much he was up, was up by 0.262s there so it was a decent margin to have then he is pretty aware too in what is being broadcast, would probably take Vanja to go through all the corner by corner traces tried looking at the site he uses can't quite figure it out lol, his Q2 S3 23.329 vs 23.426 both new tyres 23.359 on used, so in Q3 there was a 0.03 S3 seperating the two Q3 laps


Oscar in Q3 his 2 laps
S3 cost time about a tenth on his S3 cost a tenth, Q2 doesn't look like an obvious mistake just didn't improve the difference was 0.006s

I would still take the McLaren duo of any on the grid.
Is that what he said? :D

He would have been joking of course, he just misjudged it.

In fact you can see it on the video above where he loses the tyres at the very end
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Watto
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mwillems wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 14:36
Watto wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 13:52
mwillems wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 13:16


In this case Max was slower in the S3 on new tyres than.on used. He just took too much life from S1 and S2 to be able to get the optimal lap.
Depends how seriously you take his comment to GP on the when he passed the finish line that he took S3 a little easier when he saw how much he was up, was up by 0.262s there so it was a decent margin to have then he is pretty aware too in what is being broadcast, would probably take Vanja to go through all the corner by corner traces tried looking at the site he uses can't quite figure it out lol, his Q2 S3 23.329 vs 23.426 both new tyres 23.359 on used, so in Q3 there was a 0.03 S3 seperating the two Q3 laps


Oscar in Q3 his 2 laps
S3 cost time about a tenth on his S3 cost a tenth, Q2 doesn't look like an obvious mistake just didn't improve the difference was 0.006s

I would still take the McLaren duo of any on the grid.


Is that what he said? :D

He would have been joking of course, he just misjudged it.

In fact you can see it on the video above where he loses the tyres at the very end
This was his comment for what its worth



Was a chat between he and GP on the radio

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Watto wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 13:52
Depends how seriously you take his comment to GP on the when he passed the finish line that he took S3 a little easier when he saw how much he was up, was up by 0.262s there so it was a decent margin to have then he is pretty aware too in what is being broadcast, would probably take Vanja to go through all the corner by corner traces tried looking at the site he uses can't quite figure it out lol, his Q2 S3 23.329 vs 23.426 both new tyres 23.359 on used, so in Q3 there was a 0.03 S3 seperating the two Q3 laps
'when he saw....' => he is not looking at the giant screens beside the track placed for spectators, he is 'seeing' this as a delta on his steering wheel's LED screen.

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To be fair, something odd does happen, he's much slower on the first S3 straight than he was previously and with GP talking about purple-purple-white being better than purple-purple-stop... it sounds like he potentially had an issue. That car easily had 2-3 tenths in it. I cannot believe that Max eased off and nearly threw away a pole on purpose.

Hmm, today could be a challenge.
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Funny thing: Today's BritishGP trophies are made from Lego - the winner's trophy is inspired by the RAC gold trophy, and is made of 2,717 bricks.

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I cant say I feel confident during rain for victory unless the rain stops before the race start and the tarmac starts drying. Mixed conditions are perfect for Mclaren.

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venkyhere wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 14:53
Watto wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 13:52
Depends how seriously you take his comment to GP on the when he passed the finish line that he took S3 a little easier when he saw how much he was up, was up by 0.262s there so it was a decent margin to have then he is pretty aware too in what is being broadcast, would probably take Vanja to go through all the corner by corner traces tried looking at the site he uses can't quite figure it out lol, his Q2 S3 23.329 vs 23.426 both new tyres 23.359 on used, so in Q3 there was a 0.03 S3 seperating the two Q3 laps
'when he saw....' => he is not looking at the giant screens beside the track placed for spectators, he is 'seeing' this as a delta on his steering wheel's LED screen.

Yes I know that.

I mean Max would we aware his radio was being broadcast too either live or in a replay - and probably by other teams if not one of them it wouldn't be beyond a driver to drop that kind of comment as a bit of a jab at the other teams even if a bluff I could have pushed fasted if I wanted -he has a decent margin so its I think he probably did take it easier but I wouldn't put it beyond him at all to just keep people guessing as much as it was for his own team

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 15:30
I cant say I feel confident during rain for victory unless the rain stops before the race start and the tarmac starts drying. Mixed conditions are perfect for Mclaren.
There isn't much rain expected during the race that I have seen think most of it is expected to be finished before the race starts but it will be a damp start, something like 1-2mm of rain during the race with cars on track you'll have a dry line pretty quickly

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mwillems wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 15:25
To be fair, something odd does happen, he's much slower on the first S3 straight than he was previously and with GP talking about purple-purple-white being better than purple-purple-stop... it sounds like he potentially had an issue. That car easily had 2-3 tenths in it. I cannot believe that Max eased off and nearly threw away a pole on purpose.

Hmm, today could be a challenge.
The purple purple stop comments were relating to previous pole attempt sectors that weren't complete I thought. Like Saudi and Singapore. Purple purple then stop as in didn't complete the lap. Don't think it was anything to do with technical issues.

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Maybe some kind of intermittent engine problem (Tsunoda had an engine issue as well) but that resolved itself soon after.

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thestig84 wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 15:51
mwillems wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 15:25
To be fair, something odd does happen, he's much slower on the first S3 straight than he was previously and with GP talking about purple-purple-white being better than purple-purple-stop... it sounds like he potentially had an issue. That car easily had 2-3 tenths in it. I cannot believe that Max eased off and nearly threw away a pole on purpose.

Hmm, today could be a challenge.
The purple purple stop comments were relating to previous pole attempt sectors that weren't complete I thought. Like Saudi and Singapore. Purple purple then stop as in didn't complete the lap. Don't think it was anything to do with technical issues.
Its a significant speed difference. No way Max was cruising to the end.
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