The Sauber F1 Team has announced in a statement that it has extended the contracts of its current drivers, Marcus Ericcson and Felipe Nasr.The Swede and the Brazilian will again form the driver line-up for the Swiss Team in the 2016 FIA Formula One World Championship.
maybe. but the money the got for their points haul in oz, will more than make up for itJonnycraig wrote:Presumably that €15m+ has been advanced by Bernie from 2015 prizemoney, so with the €25m for the engines already advanced, over €40m of prizemoney is already gone in March. Poses a big question Mark over the teams financial future yet again.
You don't know is if money lost to VDG is greater or less than the gain from signing his replacement. Given the strength of the Sauber defence I imagine they calculated they would be better off without him even if they did have to pay damages.Jonnycraig wrote:Poses a big question Mark over the teams financial future yet again.
bdr529 wrote:So your saying that he should just give up the $8 million and move on, I wouldn't mind know what you think might have been the best thing for him to do on Friday morningefuloni wrote:What one thing has to do with another? Sauber comitted a terrible act. Immoral and ilegal, and thats why they were facing court actions.
And VdG was disrespectfull with his colleague. He should not have done that.
Apples and oranges.
They haven't paid any damages though, Bernie has had to step in and pay it as the team couldn't afford to. Ericsson & Nasr have funded them for the 2015 season, but now a huge chunk of the 2016 budget is gone before they've even got there.Richard wrote:You don't know is if money lost to VDG is greater or less than the gain from signing his replacement. Given the strength of the Sauber defence I imagine they calculated they would be better off without him even if they did have to pay damages.Jonnycraig wrote:Poses a big question Mark over the teams financial future yet again.
I was rereading the posts, and I realized I worded this poorly. Of course Bernie didn't know that the starting grid would only be 15 cars. He did know that the Manor team was had not been on track, and depending on the timing he may have been aware that Bottas was injured. This should have been enough make his shorts brown. As it was, the DNS's of Kvyat and Magnussen just added to the pain. And probably left Bernie a little relief that he intervened to prevent the Sauber cars from being seized.Moxie wrote:Manoah2u wrote:
Strategically creating a spectacle in the end has only hurt GvdG and his business and associates imho. Bernie had to intervene and bernie is generally not a happy man when he needs to do these things. In other words; you don't make friends with Bernie like that, and what you want is Bernie as your best friend. Meanwhile no team has any interest in his services ever again. And, he now gave up his racing seat for the melbourne weekend, so all that brawl and brag ended up in absolutely nothing.
Bernie didn't intervenr because VDG put on Ericsson's overalls. Bernie intervened because without Sauber Motorsport, he was looking at a starting grid of only 13 cars. Bernie has his own contractual obligations to worry about, and if he did not post a minimum number of cars (I'm not sure of the exact number) then he would have lost a lot of money. When VDG's lawyer made arrangements to have Sauber Motorsports assets seized, Bernie's shorts turned brown.
Yes, but I'd say it's more cynical. I'v had to go to court a few times myself for my families business and have been on both sides winner and loser, I'v learned it doesn't matter what I think, it's only the judges ruling that matters,Phil wrote:That's a pretty simplistic argument here.bdr529 wrote:Yes this is true I don't know the actual contract, but 3 different judges in the individual court cases each ruled in favor of VDG, I'm not basing my opinion on anything but the results of those court cases. and it's 3-0 for VDG
That's not my quote, that's from PhilAnthonyG wrote:Phil wrote:bdr529 wrote: As has been mentioned numerous times; The relevant verdict by the Swiss Arbitration court is not legally binding yet. This is pretty standard procedure when a trial or case is in process. I believe without that ruling, VdG would not have had any chance in Australia in the first place.
I know nobody would give up $8m I was being facetious, My cruxs is that both yourself and nokivasara have both mention what VDG did by wearing Ericssons overalls was (extremely) disrespectful, and I have asked what could he have done differently, but nether of you guys have given any suggestions,efuloni wrote:I was talking about VdG wearing Ericsson's suit. Nobody in a clear mind would 'just give up the $8 million and move on'.bdr529 wrote: So your saying that he should just give up the $8 million and move on, I wouldn't mind know what you think might have been the best thing for him to do on Friday morning
I agree, good that's it's over with. hope fully they can figure out a system to prevent this from happening again.Manoah2u wrote:Giedo wasn't interested in money, eh?
Was clear from the beginning it was going to end like this. I'm glad this saga is coming to an end. =D>
I'm glad when Sauber can focus fully on racing again. Good to have seen Peter's face last weekend, too.
It was disrespectful. In my opinion he wore it probably following advice (from the lawyers, maybe), to help the case and show up a little for the press.bdr529 wrote: I know nobody would give up $8m I was being facetious, My cruxs is that both yourself and nokivasara have both mention what VDG did by wearing Ericssons overalls was (extremely) disrespectful, and I have asked what could he have done differently, but nether of you guys have given any suggestions,
I'm sure he could have come in Thursday night to do it, or maybe really early Friday morning when nobody was around or better yet VDG could have shown up to one of the 3 testing sessions that they had a got a seat fitting there, He even knew they weren't going to run, him he should have brought his own driving suit instead of taking one that didn't belong to him
) and, as always, no one here needs to agree with me. My information is that unfortunately Scotty wasn't available to beam him up due to the different time zone in Australia. As such, van der Garde had to walk from the motorhome to the garage all by himself. On top of that he was quite unlucky to find a horde of press photographers in the immediate vicinity who managed to capture the event.efuloni wrote:However, truth be told: there was absolutely no need for him the come out and show himself in front of the cameras wearing his team-mate(?) suit. Imagine how Ericsson felt about it.
because he wasn't expecting any media attention nor asking for it by making things public in the first placePer wrote:My information is that unfortunately Scotty wasn't available to beam him up due to the different time zone in Australia. As such, van der Garde had to walk from the motorhome to the garage all by himself. On top of that he was quite unlucky to find a horde of press photographers in the immediate vicinity who managed to capture the event.efuloni wrote:However, truth be told: there was absolutely no need for him the come out and show himself in front of the cameras wearing his team-mate(?) suit. Imagine how Ericsson felt about it.
