2025 McLaren F1 Team

[hollus]

Pages of analyzing if norris looked happy in the podium and its societal ramifications?
Seriously, wrong forum.
Back on topic, please.

[CjC]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... /10740333/

Confirmation that the new floor works as expected and will be raced at Spa

Yep, watched his interview on Sky yesterday when he said this

Looks to have a fairly unique edge wing details too and also which has become the norm for McLaren the bracket integration of the wing to the main floor body is absolutely sublime

[PikeStance]

You're acting like they're getting EQUAL medals and recognition as the winners, and that's just not the case. It's just some generic little medal/trophy or whatever to denote their involvement. This is good. Many people will actually look fondly back on what is essentially just a souvenir and memory snapshot of their childhood. Absolutely nobody is treating it like it's the same thing as winning. Everybody knows that. The kids know that. Why dont you?

F1 is a very serious competition. Of course at this level things are different. In no world is the situation remotely comparable to just some benign little kids league that get some $2 little trophies/medals at the end of the season no matter how they did.

Years ago, and I mean years ago... I was coaching boys' soccer (Under 12). My players beg me not to give out our participation trophies. They said they are absolutely useless and embarrassing. My parents wanted to give them out, and it was a way too long conversation to convince them otherwise.

This was back in 1994. I am shock there is anyone in the world who still thinks it is a good idea. I know I definitely did not want one as a kid either.

It's completely and utterly harmless. I also dont for a second believe your story that kids less than 12 years old playing in some casual soccer league begged you to not to give them participation trophies. lol It's just not something that matters that strongly either way. The only way this at all happened is if you kind of put it in their head that they were bad from the start. 12 year olds will not think that hard about something like this and all stand together principled about something so innocuous. What a weird thing to lie about. lol

Again, nobody treats those trophies as equal to winning. This idea that they cause harm or weakness comes entirely from insecure fathers.

I don't know what to say. It was my very first year coaching. The parents chose not to give them out based on my feedback, which was based on the players' objections. They checked with the kids, who confirmed that they did not like it. The "Mothers" were shocked, but they were fine as long as their kids were fine. I couldn't care less. The only thing I cared about was my MVP and Most Improved Player award. To be honest, I am baffled that you would think I would lie about something like this. I do not find it to be incredible either. I have never coached a team where they cared for either a Participation trophy or a "certificate of achievement." We gave that to my U10, and I found them in the trash can.

My son received an "award" for participating in the Pinewood Derby. He asked why he got it, and I told him for "successfully building your car." He said, "But I want to win." I told him, we need to build a better car next year." Even he couldn't care less. I didn't talk it down, just stated what it was and even said, "How cool is that?" He just didn't care for it.

Kids are more cynical than you give them credit for.

[PikeStance]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... /10740333/

Confirmation that the new floor works as expected and will be raced at Spa

Yep, watched his interview on Sky yesterday when he said this

Looks to have a fairly unique edge wing details too and also which has become the norm for McLaren the bracket integration of the wing to the main floor body is absolutely sublime

Last night I was watching some inboards, but I was periodically looking at the track view. It is incredible how far ahead the McLarens were during the race. Even during the race, they were lapping consistently faster than everyone else.

It won't be long before we are counting down to a second Constructors' title in a row. The first time this has happened since 1988-1991 Four-peat with Senna & Prost/Berger. I hope once this happens, Stella tells each "team" you run your race. I am going to grab some popcorn and enjoy the show!

[SilviuAgo]

A little bit off topic but considering that is a "friend" of Zak...Christian Horner was fired by Red Bull!

[Darth-Piekus]

Lets see if he goes to Ferrari now.

[kc_f1]

Damn, what a bombshell..Good for papaya fans I guess.

[SilviuAgo]

Damn, what a bombshell..Good for papaya fans I guess.

I think is clear that is hard for Max to focus with all this mess around him. So I mean the car is obvious not responding to any upgrades RB is trying, the technical department lost huge knowledge with Newey departure, now Horner is sacked, Max is almost with one foot in Mercedes garrage..so all this indicate a 99% fight in the last 12 races only between Lando and Oscar for WDC. Cause for WCC Redbull, with "only one car getting points" was clear not a threat.

[PikeStance]

Damn, what a bombshell..Good for papaya fans I guess.

I think is clear that is hard for Max to focus with all this mess around him. So I mean the car is obvious not responding to any upgrades RB is trying, the technical department lost huge knowledge with Newey departure, now Horner is sacked, Max is almost with one foot in Mercedes garrage..so all this indicate a 99% fight in the last 12 races only between Lando and Oscar for WDC. Cause for WCC Redbull, with "only one car getting points" was clear not a threat.

I think it is the exact opposite. You do not fire a man for 20 years unless keeping him puts you in a worse situation. Verstappen's exit clause may have been the factor for Horner's dismissal. Jos apparently did not get along with Horner and Max supposedly gets along famously with Marko.

[Waz]

Lets see if he goes to Ferrari now.

Elkann probably been on the phone already. Horner would be sure to attract a few RB engineers to follow him too.

However... Andy Cowell at Aston is only acting as TP. Horner would be a good fit there.

[venkyhere]

Lets see if he goes to Ferrari now.

Elkann probably been on the phone already. Horner would be sure to attract a few RB engineers to follow him too.

However... Andy Cowell at Aston is only acting as TP. Horner would be a good fit there.

I am almost sure Newey's contract has a 'no Horner' clause somewhere in it.

[PikeStance]

Lets see if he goes to Ferrari now.

Elkann probably been on the phone already. Horner would be sure to attract a few RB engineers to follow him too.

However... Andy Cowell at Aston is only acting as TP. Horner would be a good fit there.

I am almost sure Newey's contract has a 'no Horner' clause somewhere in it.

Do we know that Newey left because of Horner, or was he fed up with the internal politics within Red Bull?

[Lazy]

Lets see if he goes to Ferrari now.

Elkann probably been on the phone already. Horner would be sure to attract a few RB engineers to follow him too.

However... Andy Cowell at Aston is only acting as TP. Horner would be a good fit there.

I am almost sure Newey's contract has a 'no Horner' clause somewhere in it.

More likely "No Jos"

[Macklaren]

Elkann probably been on the phone already. Horner would be sure to attract a few RB engineers to follow him too.

However... Andy Cowell at Aston is only acting as TP. Horner would be a good fit there.

I am almost sure Newey's contract has a 'no Horner' clause somewhere in it.

More likely "No Jos"

Its well known that Newey has always wanted more say in running the team including hiring decisions, which he got at Aston. No way he will work with Horner again

[Seerix]

I though this is 2025 McLaren F1 Team topic