https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... /10649863/Red Bull's downturn in performance comes three months after design guru Adrian Newey stepping down from his technical role with the team, with Marko admitting the 65-year-old's input could be useful right now.
"Newey is no longer involved in the whole race [operation], that is a factor," he conceded. "We have a broad base, but perhaps in a situation like this, the routine and the incredible knowledge that he has accumulated over his many years in Formula 1 would help."
The issue appears to be with getting the tyres to work. The 2nd set of new tyres would not switch on. Leclerc also had an issue with his new set and complained he couldn't get his car to turn. Marko said they were faster on scrubbed softs, so it could be a tyre warm-up issue and they need two laps to get the tyres in the right window?TNTHead wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 22:52The first half of the season in this thread discussions were about the power struggle within Red Bull culminating in the leave of Newey midseason.
Now we see actual drop of pace. I wonder what the effect is of the turmoil at Red Bull on the focus and motivation of the team and the actual engineering work.
In the same time they took a development direction that made the setup (very) narrow in adopting parts of the Mercedes development direction of 2023.
It could be coincidence that the drop of pace started at the moment Newey left, it could be due to wrong development direction, it could be both.
Besides, what about the power units, are they (Mercedes vs Honda) equal? If I remember correctly the Mercedes did update a few things which could improve performance. Could it be that they have unleased the units after a few race, showing the improved pace (added up to the aero Improvements)?
What Sergio prefers is a car with a neutral to understeer tendency, like many drivers. Max can tolerate more oversteer, so, like Lewis Hamilton and Michael Schumacher before him, he likes a car with a strong front end that turns in sharply and quickly on corner entry, allowing him to then balance the oversteer as he accelerates past the apex.Jurgen von Diaz wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 21:43Red Bull is in the midst of a downfall, but Pérez is becoming more and more consistent. Pérez truly seems to prefer slower cars.
Which tells me that the improvements and setup changes during the race weekends was most probably heavily influenced by Newey’s input. As since he left that trait of RBR, improving the car overnight has disappeared…ispano6 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 22:43Marko on Newey's absence
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... /10649863/Red Bull's downturn in performance comes three months after design guru Adrian Newey stepping down from his technical role with the team, with Marko admitting the 65-year-old's input could be useful right now.
"Newey is no longer involved in the whole race [operation], that is a factor," he conceded. "We have a broad base, but perhaps in a situation like this, the routine and the incredible knowledge that he has accumulated over his many years in Formula 1 would help."
If they were to ask Pérez what kind of car Red Bull would design, this would be the result. That's why Max is their number one driver; he can push a fast car to the limit, while Pérez goes spinning through walls.gshevlin wrote:What Sergio prefers is a car with a neutral to understeer tendency, like many drivers. Max can tolerate more oversteer, so, like Lewis Hamilton and Michael Schumacher before him, he likes a car with a strong front end that turns in sharply and quickly on corner entry, allowing him to then balance the oversteer as he accelerates past the apex.Jurgen von Diaz wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 21:43Red Bull is in the midst of a downfall, but Pérez is becoming more and more consistent. Pérez truly seems to prefer slower cars.
Sergio's reputation for tyre preservation comes from his car being more neutral, which degrades the tyres more evenly. His style is more like the "glider" style of Lauda and Prost.
The design of the car is such as to make it faster when Max drives it...if it is working as designed. Currently, it is not.
Newey's wife did reply to those comments by horner in a negative way on Twitter, so I'm assuming Newey was involved in RB20 development and upgrades...