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LEC said after the qualy that they didn't solve the car`s issue/issues in qualy, which is the need to warm up quickly the front tyres in qualy and partly solve the chronic understeer the car was born with ... the Italian press says that SF25 has an overaggresive use of the heat generated by the brakes, particularly the front on, and in order to do that they underzise the brake ducts' air intake ... this is good for the qualy and lowering the drag but they do overheat when the car is in the dirty air behind a car, meaning the aim for a front row start in order to have a clean air ...
no clue, this is the most hes said about it
Charles: "We have a few issues with the car, one in particular that, for me in Q2-Q3, was extremely tricky to manage. We don't have any solutions for now. But on this circuit, with fast corners, it's really very difficult to drive."
https://x.com/fiagirly/status/1934360122286846040Lewis Hamilton says there’s a lot he can’t say about Ferrari:
“Of course I’m asking for these things [upgrades]. I don’t know why we haven’t been bringing upgrades, I think we have one hopefully coming soon.”
“The mindset for me, I’m like ‘there’s a lot of changes that need to be made in the system.’ I wish I could tell you what's happening. There's a lot going on in the background.”
“Yeah, I can't say too much about it. There’s so many things I wish I could tell you that could explain the things that have happened this year, the problems we had and what’s going on within the organisation. But my goal is to try and positively influence, try and get change so we can have long term success.”
“There’s a lot of changes that we need. For me it’s that foundation building. We’re not fighting for a championship.”
https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1941541992892191160"I had understeer in Turn 16, that’s probably where I paid a heavy price. I’m satisfied with the progress and the direction we’re taking. My engineer and I were much better with the car’s setup, and I was much happier in the car. The lap was really good until the last corner, I lost a tenth: I’m not sure if it was the curb that made me go a bit wide, but then I lost control. We’re making progress. There’s still a lot to do, but we got the update at the last race. We’re improving our processes and our approach to weekends. I feel like we’re getting better results, and I’ll keep working on it."
- "I think, ultimately, we probably have understeer at low speed, which is an inherent characteristic of this car. And I think we tend to over-rev to gain a bit of extra time."
- "Can tomorrow go well? I don’t know, I’m not even thinking about it. Tomorrow will unfold as it does, tonight I’ll rest a bit, and in the race, I’ll try to push as hard as possible."
- "The second run in Q3 has always been a bit trickier for us, but today I made progress, and I think I took a step forward."
Yea dont think its the brakes, they talked about it last week. The only thing i could think of that they themselves havent outright mentioned as the issue is the rear suspension, but then leclerc's answer about the upgrades coming not fixing the issue he's talking about makes me believe its not that, also said its a problem that hurts them in quali, maybe someone more knowledgeable has an ideaScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 18:56They wouldn't be so cautious with talking about it if it were the brakes no? Leclerc has ranted about the brakes as recently as last weekend, but by both his and Vasseur's comments this is something else that they haven't highlighted yet.
Maybe a specific part of the car that underperforms in cold weather or shifts the balance of the car across sessions which is why both drivers lost their rhythm on Q3?
Lewis -
https://www.motorsportweek.com/2025/07/ ... row-hopes/I think at the end we’re at low-speed understeer, which is something that’s inherent with this car. So we’re probably having to go a little bit too far over [overdriving] which then makes it where the cars are super [peaky]. So we need a little bit more performance."
Seems like they're downplaying expectations for the next spec a little bit. Especially if there's an issue specific to qualifying that they can't fix, their race pace has been pretty competitive all year even with the lico (some weekends more than others ofcourse), qualifying is where they really need to improve...Luscion wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 19:16
Yea dont think its the brakes, they talked about it last week. The only thing i could think of that they themselves havent outright mentioned as the issue is the rear suspension, but then leclerc's answer about the upgrades coming not fixing the issue he's talking about makes me believe its not that, also said its a problem that hurts them in quali, maybe someone more knowledgeable has an idea
I was thinking it must be engine related and then I saw this from the race:
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... rari-back/This could be a consequence of energy management, or some engine characteristics related to the temperature cycle that power units go through during qualifying – where they have to do repeated fast laps in a short duration.
This doesn’t pin it to anything but Leclerc says it’s something to do with the ‘high speed’
You just beat me to itf1316 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2025, 20:29I was thinking it must be engine related and then I saw this from the race:
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... rari-back/This could be a consequence of energy management, or some engine characteristics related to the temperature cycle that power units go through during qualifying – where they have to do repeated fast laps in a short duration.
Kinda makes sense - I remember rumours that they were trying to squeeze and bit more from the engine this year.
