Ferrari SF23

[AR3-GP]

I believe Ferrari engines this year did 1200 for reference



Article is already posted here, but Duchessa doubles down on the 10km/h value and confirms more than 1 sec gain

Given last year pole was 130.5 with F1-75 that suggests low 1.29s

The way this is described, I don't understand why anyone would bet against the SF23 next weekend.

10km/h for the same load? That's insane. No one will be able to compete with that.

[Xyz22]

I believe Ferrari engines this year did 1200 for reference



Article is already posted here, but Duchessa doubles down on the 10km/h value and confirms more than 1 sec gain

Given last year pole was 130.5 with F1-75 that suggests low 1.29s

The way this is described, I don't understand why anyone would bet against the SF23 next weekend.

10km/h for the same load? That's insane. No one will be able to compete with that.

What if RB has found a lot of DWF with close to no impact on drag?

[saviour stivala]

Last year most of the same people on here constantly lauded the RB top speed, Back than the RB had better top speed while the FERRARI was better at cornering. While this time it seems it is the FERRARI which seems to have the better top speed it's cornering is the thing worrying them.

[Vanja #66]

I don't know if it's related to the analysis you have made on this post, but i found this video on twitter

That kind of flexing, yes. It's hard to tell if it's too much or as it should be, but it has an impact both on straight and while cornering. If it's too flexible (but legal) it might yield too much and lose too much downforce.

[AR3-GP]

I believe Ferrari engines this year did 1200 for reference



Article is already posted here, but Duchessa doubles down on the 10km/h value and confirms more than 1 sec gain

Given last year pole was 130.5 with F1-75 that suggests low 1.29s

The way this is described, I don't understand why anyone would bet against the SF23 next weekend.

10km/h for the same load? That's insane. No one will be able to compete with that.

What if RB has found a lot of DWF with close to no impact on drag?

Well...they'll he hoping they did if what Duchessa said about the SF23 efficiency is true.

[jambuka]

The way this is described, I don't understand why anyone would bet against the SF23 next weekend.

10km/h for the same load? That's insane. No one will be able to compete with that.

What if RB has found a lot of DWF with close to no impact on drag?

Well...they'll he hoping they did if what Duchessa said about the SF23 efficiency is true.

Aren't the new tires themselves 1 sec faster than last year ? How reliable is this ?

[AR3-GP]

What if RB has found a lot of DWF with close to no impact on drag?

Well...they'll he hoping they did if what Duchessa said about the SF23 efficiency is true.

Aren't the new tires themselves 1 sec faster than last year ? How reliable is this ?

That doesn't have an impact on the drag limited straight line speed. Cars are basically punching against their drag limited terminal velocity at the end of the straight, regardless of how quickly they enter the straight (moreso the case in a place like Bahrain, Jeddah).

[Cs98]

Well...they'll he hoping they did if what Duchessa said about the SF23 efficiency is true.

Aren't the new tires themselves 1 sec faster than last year ? How reliable is this ?

That doesn't have an impact on the drag limited straight line speed. Cars are basically punching against their drag limited terminal velocity at the end of the straight, regardless of how quickly they enter the straight (moreso the case in a place like Bahrain, Jeddah).

The 10km/h number factors in the lower drag RW. So it's not that insane.

Judging by the testing times most of the cars are 1-1,5 seconds faster than last year, with some teams like AM well over 2 seconds faster.

[AR3-GP]

Aren't the new tires themselves 1 sec faster than last year ? How reliable is this ?

That doesn't have an impact on the drag limited straight line speed. Cars are basically punching against their drag limited terminal velocity at the end of the straight, regardless of how quickly they enter the straight (moreso the case in a place like Bahrain, Jeddah).

The 10km/h number factors in the lower drag RW. So it's not that insane.

Judging by the testing times most of the cars are 1-1,5 seconds faster than last year, with some teams like AM well over 2 seconds faster.

The source said 10km/h gained with the same load. It's very much insane. It's saying they haven't lost any downforce doing it.

Cars are 1.5 to 2 seconds quicker than last year, but a large part of that is coming from the new tires which Pirelli says are 1.5 seconds faster than last year which is a combination of the construction improvements and the reduction of the minimum tire pressures.

In that we are only discussing straight line speed, not cornering grip, then gaining 10km/h with the same amount of downforce is insanely good numbers. It's frightening.

[jambuka]

That doesn't have an impact on the drag limited straight line speed. Cars are basically punching against their drag limited terminal velocity at the end of the straight, regardless of how quickly they enter the straight (moreso the case in a place like Bahrain, Jeddah).

The 10km/h number factors in the lower drag RW. So it's not that insane.

The source said 10km/h gained with the same load. It's very much insane. It's saying they haven't lost any downforce doing it.

Maybe they are able to get the increase the top speed under same load. But how does that translate to top speed increase with the RW they used for Bahrain last year ? They are going to bring a different RW this weekend.

[gordonthegun]

The keel and the strange curvature of the suspension arms where they attach to the chassis:

[FDD]

What if the problem with understeer/oversteer in low speed corners is linked with the completely new suspension geometry/mechanics and not with aero.
Just thinking

[MDB983]

The 10km/h number factors in the lower drag RW. So it's not that insane.

The source said 10km/h gained with the same load. It's very much insane. It's saying they haven't lost any downforce doing it.

Maybe they are able to get the increase the top speed under same load. But how does that translate to top speed increase with the RW they used for Bahrain last year ? They are going to bring a different RW this weekend.

Same load is what was stated.
So if in Bahrain they use the same wing they did last year (more loaded than the testing wing), they'll be 10km/h faster than last year

[PhillipM]

Same load is what was stated.
So if in Bahrain they use the same wing they did last year (more loaded than the testing wing), they'll be 10km/h faster than last year

No, because that load is likely coming from much more efficient underbody downforce and working the floor harder. You might find the same wing as last year would actually be slower if they're generating much more downforce from the floor and body.

[dialtone]

Same load is what was stated.
So if in Bahrain they use the same wing they did last year (more loaded than the testing wing), they'll be 10km/h faster than last year

No, because that load is likely coming from much more efficient underbody downforce and working the floor harder. You might find the same wing as last year would actually be slower if they're generating much more downforce from the floor and body.

On the other hand, with that rear wing they may never need to brake to go around the track.