2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[r85]

So I guess Fred’s replacement is conveniently looking for a new job now….

I think Fred will stay, but imagine Lewis and Horner vs Max and Toto in 2026...
Definitely not impossible that Horner could become a candidate down the line. If Flavio can return to F1, so can Christian.

[ToffeeTyres]

I hope Ferrari keep well away from Horner he is toxic, causes trouble and imagine him moaning constantly Italians wouldn’t stand it. Stay well away.

[Waz]

So I guess Fred’s replacement is conveniently looking for a new job now….

Horner is right up Elkanns alley I believe. And honestly, a TP with a proven success record is literally what Ferrari need.

I don't mind Fred, but his results have been quite mixed and there's no clear trend of improving. It's very similar to the half dozen or so other TPs from the last 15 years.

2010 was the last time a Ferrari driver was properly in the title fight till the end with a car capable of more than a couple opportunistic wins.

[Fakepivot]

Imagine going after someone who is accused of sexual misconduct and who has now taken a team from no1 to no4, yes I think ferrari top brass are that dumb, if he is hired to replace fred I won't be surprised.. lets see if both driver put there foot down and stand there ground of what they have said in the media or it was all just pr bs..

[Seanspeed]

It's very frustrating how closed the drivers seem to be in actually being able to give us any kind of concrete information on what the problems they keep having with the car are. Like it's clear they are being muzzled to not give any detail at all. And it just seems very needless. I know there's 'games' to play with hiding technical secrets of their cars and all, but more and more it just feels like it's just a matter of trying to protect the team from criticism. I know Italian media(and others) can be very reactionary, but it's annoying being kept in the dark about what's actually happening with the drivers and car.

As for Horner, I've already said it - but I would stop supporting Ferrari for the duration if they hire Horner as TP and kick out Fred. There's a lot of stupid things I tolerate from Ferrari leadership, but this would be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me. Not just cuz Horner is toxic(though that is a biggie), but also because it would indicate a level of sheer stupidity from the higher ups that I was clearly underestimating, and that I'd likely not have anything to look forward to with this team during such time anyways. I really dont think it's on the cards, though.

[ScuderiaLeo]

It's very frustrating how closed the drivers seem to be in actually being able to give us any kind of concrete information on what the problems they keep having with the car are. Like it's clear they are being muzzled to not give any detail at all. And it just seems very needless. I know there's 'games' to play with hiding technical secrets of their cars and all, but more and more it just feels like it's just a matter of trying to protect the team from criticism. I know Italian media(and others) can be very reactionary, but it's annoying being kept in the dark about what's actually happening with the drivers and car.

As for Horner, I've already said it - but I would stop supporting Ferrari for the duration if they hire Horner as TP and kick out Fred. There's a lot of stupid things I tolerate from Ferrari leadership, but this would be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me. Not just cuz Horner is toxic(though that is a biggie), but also because it would indicate a level of sheer stupidity from the higher ups that I was clearly underestimating, and that I'd likely not have anything to look forward to with this team during such time anyways. I really dont think it's on the cards, though.

Yes, me too. I don't know if I could be watching 2026 if they fire Vasseur for Horner.

There's no chance that goes well or helps with any of Ferrari's issues.

How does it help to bring in a new TP that will be even more controversial internally that has no relationship to the drivers?

[Hammerfist]

Yup Horner would not be good at Ferrari. It seems,s we can all agree on that.

[yooogurt]

I hope Stroll will pay Horner more and Vasser will stay, well and here the opinion of the pilots will also decide, I don’t believe that they will be for changing the TP

[Fakepivot]

Elkann thinks this is football, thinks bring people who have won championship will automatically win them championship, redbull won coz there original owner from what I've heard was sensible guy Horner's dint win on his first year , he had an owner that actually give a crap about the team, along with marko they built a winning team step by step even after 2014 the redbull owner could have fired horner why dint they?? They got max and they slowly built the team again to win in2021.. you know all the things that fred lacked..

[ScuderiaLeo]

I hope Stroll will pay Horner more and Vasser will stay, well and here the opinion of the pilots will also decide, I don’t believe that they will be for changing the TP

I don't think the drivers have much say in these things unless it's an ultimatum situation.

If the drivers have no clause to leave because of Vasseur being fired they have no leverage here no matter how much they complain, other than that their performance might dip if Vasseur leaves because they might lose trust in the team even more.

But you bring up a good point, if Horner had the choice between Ferrari and another team, would he even want to come here? I hope not...

[JPower]

Imagine going after someone who is accused of sexual misconduct and who has now taken a team from no1 to no4, yes I think ferrari top brass are that dumb, if he is hired to replace fred I won't be surprised.. lets see if both driver put there foot down and stand there ground of what they have said in the media or it was all just pr bs..

Imagine going after someone who lead a team from nothing to comprehensively outperforming Ferrari over the past 20 years.

That's the selling point. Not that it will happen, but I can almost guarantee Elkann is reaching out to him.

Thinking the drivers are going go rogue or anything similar is hilarious at best.

[ScuderiaLeo]

The more relevant part to all this for Ferrari may be that the team can potentially now poach some top engineering and non-TP organizational talent from Red Bull.

[Seanspeed]

Imagine going after someone who is accused of sexual misconduct and who has now taken a team from no1 to no4, yes I think ferrari top brass are that dumb, if he is hired to replace fred I won't be surprised.. lets see if both driver put there foot down and stand there ground of what they have said in the media or it was all just pr bs..

Imagine going after someone who lead a team from nothing to comprehensively outperforming Ferrari over the past 20 years.

That's the selling point. Not that it will happen, but I can almost guarantee Elkann is reaching out to him.

Thinking the drivers are going go rogue or anything similar is hilarious at best.

Horner's biggest accomplishment was convincing Adrian Newey to come to them and letting Newey set up the technical organization to his liking. Without that, Horner+Red Bull never sees a fraction of the success they did over the past twenty years.

But Horner will not be able to play that magic card twice, so it's utterly pointless to imagine what Horner alone can bring to Ferrari.

[IntrinsicVoid]

Now its the right time for Ferrari to try again and poach Pierre Wache.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

But you bring up a good point, if Horner had the choice between Ferrari and another team, would he even want to come here? I hope not...

Horner has a very good life with a huge estate in Oxfordshire and his children go to school here. If the options are 2 UK based teams (Alpine or Aston) or an Italian based one....the remuneration package would have to be insane!!