2014 Testing - Jerez 28-31 Jan

[astracrazy]

Merc changed the gearbox in two hours which would surely include removing the spring? but it took RBR all day?

Do i smell something......

[i70q7m7ghw]

The most promising thing to see from Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren are the use testing equipment and flow vis. This means they are working through their testing program, rather than troubleshooting unexpected issues. Definately good news for the Mercedes teams, but Ferrari is looking pretty good too!

[Phil]

I'm quite impressed with McLaren. Combined, they've done 92 laps (52 Magnussen, 40 Button). Hamilton did 62 today.

[Javert]

I'm quite impressed with McLaren. Combined, they've done 92 laps (52 Magnussen, 40 Button). Hamilton did 62 today.

It's more reliable than MP4-26

[Helios]

Hamilton did 62 today.

He lost 2 hours due to a gearbox change tho.

[astracrazy]

I'm quite impressed with McLaren. Combined, they've done 92 laps (52 Magnussen, 40 Button). Hamilton did 62 today.

It's more reliable than MP4-26

i think the 26 was reliable. it was just a dog with the exhaust they were trying

[Del Boy]

I'm quite impressed with McLaren. Combined, they've done 92 laps (52 Magnussen, 40 Button). Hamilton did 62 today.

It's more reliable than MP4-26

i think the 26 was reliable. it was just a dog with the exhaust they were trying

Don't you mean it was just an octopus!!

[RZS10]

Engine____Laps (total) - avg per team/engine
Mercedes__208_(456) - 114
Ferrari_____92_(230) - 115 (not counting marussia, only did a few installation laps on day three)
Renault____43__(81)_ - 27

so the ferrari engines made as many km/day as the merc units

[Alexgtt]

All quite impressive today from Merc, McLaren, Ferrari and Williams. Button did predict they would be in 1.22's on the last day and that looks definite, if not faster. Take into consideration engines not on max, they're not really pushing yet, probably running with quite a lot of fuel, compromised tyres and still loads of calibration and set up work to come, let alone straight development it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they're as quick as last year quite early in the season.

[gibells]

After 25 years of being an F1 fan, I got myself to the track today. My first impressions of the new engines are how quiet the cars sound. But tHey do have a beautifully technical rort and whistle to them. I will say that on the very rare occasions that there were 2 cars in a corner it was much more pleasing. I think the V8s cocofony would mean you'd need ear defenders but the muted tones of the turbos would mean you could enjoy the sounds uncovered.

The Ferrari, Mclaren and Merc seemed really hooked up. Alonso particularly seemed very loose and confiddent with getting squirally. The car was hooked up well. All 3 of thoses cars looked really beautiful. The dodgy noses look much worse in the pictures. The light and shadows hide them well. It's not a problem at all for me.

When they eventually fired Massas Williams up, he looked great in it. Really lively. They actually look like they could take the odd podium.

All the Ferrari and Merc powered motors seemed to be running really nicely. Both outfits seemed like they have really done their homework. Especially the mercs. All Renaults seem like they are in a heap of trouble. The Toro Rosso sounded awful. Particularly off throttle. Obviously they have transfered the throttle tech over from the atmospherics, but It sounded like it was really struggling to come back on throttle. A strange pickup. They seemed really slow.

It was overall a great day, but the whole thing seemed more subdued to how I feel it would have been before. Not very rock and roll. It's like a wild child come good, going from the tattoed hells angel look to a suit and brogues. Not sure which I prefer, but I guess it's the future.

[mrluke]

Engine____Laps (total) - avg per team/engine
Mercedes__208_(456) - 114
Ferrari_____92_(230) - 115 (not counting marussia, only did a few installation laps on day three)
Renault____43__(81)_ - 27

so the ferrari engines made as many km/day as the merc units

perhaps, but mercedes have each merc powered team doing different parts of their engine test programme, therefore the total mileage is more important than mileage / car

Quite impressed the mercedes powered teams are working that way tbh.

All the Ferrari and Merc powered motors seemed to be running really nicely. Both outfits seemed like they have really done their homework. Especially the mercs. All Renaults seem like they are in a heap of trouble. The Toro Rosso sounded awful. Particularly off throttle. Obviously they have transfered the throttle tech over from the atmospherics, but It sounded like it was really struggling to come back on throttle. A strange pickup. They seemed really slow.

This to me sounds like they have disabled their electronic anti lag. (is that the MGU-H ?) Therefore their maps will be overly rich and they will be a long way down on power when they change up a gear. Suggest their yesterdays problem were mgu-h related.

[astracrazy]

It's more reliable than MP4-26

i think the 26 was reliable. it was just a dog with the exhaust they were trying

Don't you mean it was just an octopus!!

no because that was a myth. it was actually something else, search for it

[RZS10]

Engine____Laps (total) - avg per team/engine
Mercedes__208_(456) - 114
Ferrari_____92_(230) - 115 (not counting marussia, only did a few installation laps on day three)
Renault____43__(81)_ - 27

so the ferrari engines made as many km/day as the merc units

perhaps, but mercedes have each merc powered team doing different parts of their engine test programme, therefore the total mileage is more important than mileage / car

Quite impressed the mercedes powered teams are working that way tbh.

of course it is beneficial to do more laps altogether, especially if the teams work on different test programs, which is really surprising as you say... it was just about overall reliability - Mercedes ~ Ferrari >> Renault ... although FI seemed to have problems with some part of the mercedes unit yesterday (today also?)

[Del Boy]

i think the 26 was reliable. it was just a dog with the exhaust they were trying

Don't you mean it was just an octopus!!

no because that was a myth. it was actually something else, search for it

Astracrazy - firstly it was mean't as a joke a play on words dog and cat (pus)!! I put a smiley as a clue!

On your point it was something else, it was actually called the fan tail but named by the press as Octopus. Of course fantail doesn't work with my feeble joke. I think whilst not it's McLaren name most people know what I mean.

[Redragon]

The question is raising on my head, Would Mercedes would help McLaren after the engine is homologated on 28th February? They might be champion contenders but next year they will be with Honda. So I am not really expecting much from McLaren over the development of the year. Could it be Mercedes Vs Ferrari if REdbull continues with so much problems