Red Bull RB16B

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mantaque wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 15:28
godlameroso wrote:
02 Jul 2021, 14:55
Stu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 07:53


Nice photo!
Very interesting how they are shaping the outer edge of the diffuser, it almost looks like a bell-mouth (which would be good for airflow); I just need to work out whether that is to allow a sideways flow into the diffuser - potentially taking advantage of tyre squirt turbulence, or allow easier extraction of the tyre squirt turbulence by the rear hub aero detailing?

I wonder what others are doing in that area?
The air coming off the diffuser edge and tire squirt collide raising the static pressure behind the tire. Higher static pressure behind the tire causes lower pressure difference between leading and trailing edge. This weakens tire squirt.

Wheel alignment is important when it comes to aero because the wheels are big and the alignment can change the angle by as much as 25mm at either extreme. The strakes, endplate and outer section of the front wing affect airflow to the tire. Red Bull are the best team at aero because they knew this since 2019.

They made their front wing outboard loaded, the only team to use that configuration since the 2019 front wings were introduced.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4j_r35XMAI ... ame=medium

Now that they have the rear end sorted, they have a really nicely balanced car.
What is the actual difference between one wing and the other (VER vs. PER)? I don't see it.
Mainly these 3 areas:
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More new stuff for RBR.

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Sevach wrote:
03 Jul 2021, 13:57
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5XQ3orXwAM ... ame=medium

More new stuff for RBR.
Good spot. Running on both cars in FP3?
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Pyrone89 wrote:
03 Jul 2021, 14:33
Sevach wrote:
03 Jul 2021, 13:57
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5XQ3orXwAM ... ame=medium

More new stuff for RBR.
Good spot. Running on both cars in FP3?
According to Albert (the man who posted on twitter) only Max has it.
Perez has the updated diffuser(which he didn't last week).

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Excellent tweak, I love the way this car evolves, it's so organic. Every time you see a new piece on the car you can just tell everything flows better. Obviously it's not the same as seeing the air move around the car, but the way the car changes through development, it is like a sand dune being shaped by the wind, everything is so smooth and logically placed.

You can see the understanding of the aero team evolve along with the car, how they increased the extraction of air in that part of the bargeboard with this tweak.
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MtthsMlw wrote:
03 Jul 2021, 17:00
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Which alien spaceship did that fell off?

Did Perez keep the new fully serrated diffuser for quali? And did Max run the new louvres on the sidepods in quali?
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Stu wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 07:53
MtthsMlw wrote:
30 Jun 2021, 19:10
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Nice photo!
Very interesting how they are shaping the outer edge of the diffuser, it almost looks like a bell-mouth (which would be good for airflow); I just need to work out whether that is to allow a sideways flow into the diffuser - potentially taking advantage of tyre squirt turbulence, or allow easier extraction of the tyre squirt turbulence by the rear hub aero detailing?

I wonder what others are doing in that area?
In order to really see how this is working I think that we would need to see how it interacts with the rear hub aero package through the full range of travel, if it is really clever then it would probably perform differently at different ride heights (for maximum gains across the full operating spectrum)…
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Third new front wing in the last 5 races - used by Verstappen only.

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aerofoilf1 wrote:
04 Jul 2021, 16:39
Third new front wing in the last 5 races - used by Verstappen only.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5ddj1hWQAs ... name=large
Indeed, he made a point to comment on it during the race as well, seems he likes the upgrade!

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ispano6 wrote:
04 Jul 2021, 21:43
aerofoilf1 wrote:
04 Jul 2021, 16:39
Third new front wing in the last 5 races - used by Verstappen only.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5ddj1hWQAs ... name=large
Indeed, he made a point to comment on it during the race as well, seems he likes the upgrade!
That was just again a half radio conversation being broadcast. It was an answer on whether Max wanted a front wing adjustment for the next stint.

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It's a good looking FW... And clearly working well...

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probably the reason why RBR is not pushing FW regulations hard, theirs is working good.