Concept power units from 2030

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
Dr. Acula
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Re: Concept power units from 2030

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DenBommer wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 18:02
McLarenHonda wrote:
09 Sep 2025, 16:36
wuzak wrote:
08 Sep 2025, 11:28


This supports your view

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-ma ... /10757765/

Though Audi still saying they want a high efficiency hybrid engine.

High efficiency would, surely, rule out any N/A engine?
I don’t think so!

Toyota which has been the only car manufacturer producing fully hybrid cars always uses NA engines along with batteries and CVTs! So I don’t think NA engines mean low efficiency…
Maybe that’s why they don’t have one foot in F1 (I mean with Haas).
You have to differentiate between racing and road use. Yes, a charged induction system would increase efficiency, if it runs on nominal charge pressure. In racing that's the case probably 60-80% of the time. If you crawl through a city, you may never reach nominal charge pressure. Which means you're stuck with a engine that in most cases has a lower compression ratio than a NA-engine would have, which means in this scenario, the charged engine is less efficient. Also, the induction charging system adds weight and needs space. Which makes the car as a whole a tiny bit less efficient.
In road applications, it's not just the engine, it's the whole car as a system that determines how efficient it is.

gruntguru
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Even in road use, a "hybrid" transmissions allows the ice to operate at its peak efficiency for most or all of the time. The most efficient package would be a charged engine. A charged engine will also be lighter than NA and have lower friction losses.
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