Jurgen von Diaz wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025, 16:19
Prime-Kimi, especially 2003-2007, was fast. Without an unreliable Merc engine, he would have been a three-time champion. Ferrari did sign him even when Schumi was reigning champion, so he surely was fast. It did pay out when Kimi won the championship in his Ferrari debut season.
Have to mention also 2012-2013 at Lotus, which was a magnificent comeback when he almost bankrupted the team. After 2014, Kimi was aging like wine.
This is
insanity to me. Genuinely.
You talk about Kimi's 'prime', but he was only 27 years old when he joined Ferrari. In what world is 27 not somebody's prime?
Ferrari bought into the same myth that people like you did - that Kimi was a top driver. But the hiring quite obviously proved otherwise. Even in 2007, his advantage over Massa was slight. And then in 2008, the reverse happened and Kimi was convincingly beat by Massa. He was
beat by Felipe Massa in a title winning car, when things mattered most.
This would never, ever happen to any top driver. And just to make things super clear, in 2009 with completely new regs, Kimi again proved no better than Massa overall.
Then Kimi leaves to Lotus and Alonso replaces him and monsters Massa. While Kimi again doesn't face any sort of tough driver as teammate, but has a great car.
How do you honestly not see the pattern? So many of y'all had this impression of Kimi as some top driver, but when this was disproven quite definitively, y'all still had a lingering memory of thinking Kimi was great, instead of actually ever revising your opinion. Basically, your first impression of Kimi was too strong for clear evidence to overcome.