2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Jurgen von Diaz
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erikejw wrote:Massa preferred a slightly understeer car with less front.

Kimi needed a great frontend with bite and good corner entry.

Ferrari had the philosophy then that an understeering car was the fastest. Schumacher stayed on as development driver for the team, giving input in future directions.

He also had everyone behind him in the team.
Hence the car was developed to Massas liking.

Kimi also changed from Michelin to Bridgestone tyres.

Kimi definitely didnt drive his best during those years or for what he was paid either.
Wasn't sharp front end Schumacher's trademark, just like Max Verstappen's? Schumacher giving advices against his own driving style?

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Any news on the supposed second floor for Hungary? I saw it mentioned a few times during the break but haven't seen any updates or confirmation of it being developed since. Was it a nothingburger?

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ToffeeTyres wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 16:45
Being a sprint weekend and if the new suspension is on the cars this weekend we probably won’t see the true performance from it as they will likely have ride height slightly higher with it being a sprint weekend. They should be able to change planks one for practice and sprint one for main quali and GP of course it will wear more using only one for whole weekend, just isn’t right that they don’t factor that in. Really don’t like sprint weekends but looking forward to the Grand Prix love Spa
isn't it exactly the opposite?! They can change whatever they like after the sprint, including planks. That's why Ferrari (and Mercedes) have excelled there so far.

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According to Autosprint, discussions with Vasseur are finalized and it's expected he will be confirmed for 2026 (past that is uncertain). There are other major staffing changes within the team that will be announced later (this was one of Vasseur's asks for staying with the team, so not a surprise if it's true that Vasseur is staying.) The team and especially Vasseur are confident in Serra's direction so we can assume if Vasseur is staying, Serra is no question either.

Note: Autosprint is not Autoracer

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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
22 Jul 2025, 16:19
Prime-Kimi, especially 2003-2007, was fast. Without an unreliable Merc engine, he would have been a three-time champion. Ferrari did sign him even when Schumi was reigning champion, so he surely was fast. It did pay out when Kimi won the championship in his Ferrari debut season.

Have to mention also 2012-2013 at Lotus, which was a magnificent comeback when he almost bankrupted the team. After 2014, Kimi was aging like wine.
This is insanity to me. Genuinely.

You talk about Kimi's 'prime', but he was only 27 years old when he joined Ferrari. In what world is 27 not somebody's prime?

Ferrari bought into the same myth that people like you did - that Kimi was a top driver. But the hiring quite obviously proved otherwise. Even in 2007, his advantage over Massa was slight. And then in 2008, the reverse happened and Kimi was convincingly beat by Massa. He was beat by Felipe Massa in a title winning car, when things mattered most.

This would never, ever happen to any top driver. And just to make things super clear, in 2009 with completely new regs, Kimi again proved no better than Massa overall.

Then Kimi leaves to Lotus and Alonso replaces him and monsters Massa. While Kimi again doesn't face any sort of tough driver as teammate, but has a great car.

How do you honestly not see the pattern? So many of y'all had this impression of Kimi as some top driver, but when this was disproven quite definitively, y'all still had a lingering memory of thinking Kimi was great, instead of actually ever revising your opinion. Basically, your first impression of Kimi was too strong for clear evidence to overcome.
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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
23 Jul 2025, 00:26
According to Autosprint, discussions with Vasseur are finalized and it's expected he will be confirmed for 2026 (past that is uncertain). There are other major staffing changes within the team that will be announced later (this was one of Vasseur's asks for staying with the team, so not a surprise if it's true that Vasseur is staying.) The team and especially Vasseur are confident in Serra's direction so we can assume if Vasseur is staying, Serra is no question either.

Note: Autosprint is not Autoracer
Equally, this could be "Our reactionary content against Vasseur is showing to have no teeth, so now we'll fabricate a story of how Fred is totally gonna stay, making us look right either way".