Schooling is a bit of a stretch though when it is clear it is completely setup related. Both McLarens were quicker but could not overtake due to different DF settings. It’s just the way things played out.
Schooling is a bit of a stretch though when it is clear it is completely setup related. Both McLarens were quicker but could not overtake due to different DF settings. It’s just the way things played out.
Lol yes. It’s worse than ever on that front, and will surely be with the new regs as well.avantman wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:39Part 4 of the Spa '14 trilogy.
This race was yet another confirmation this current set of regulations turned out to be a complete failure. Has slipstream ever been as weak in F1 history as it is now? Extremely aero efficient cars were deemed to become a failure from day 1. Remember they even tried to sell these regs saying that would allow them to ban the DRS?
Nonsense, it was all about the first corner. When Piastri cam within 4 tenths out of the corner he could have had Max. Max was just to clever to let that happen.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:39Schooling is a bit of a stretch though when it is clear it is completely setup related. Both McLarens were quicker but could not overtake due to different DF settings. It’s just the way things played out.
He didn't even have enough straight line speed to get alongside Max after his mistake. It was pretty obvious after that, there was no way any of the McLarens was getting past unless Max made a mistake and let them through.DDopey wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:43Nonsense, it was all about the first corner. When Piastri cam within 4 tenths out of the corner he could have had Max. Max was just to clever to let that happen.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:39Schooling is a bit of a stretch though when it is clear it is completely setup related. Both McLarens were quicker but could not overtake due to different DF settings. It’s just the way things played out.
True, but had the roles been reversed, Max would have still won in that Mclaren today.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:39Schooling is a bit of a stretch though when it is clear it is completely setup related. Both McLarens were quicker but could not overtake due to different DF settings. It’s just the way things played out.
How ”could he have had Max”? Peddling his feet harder into the asphalt to gain more top speed? He was at one point 3 tenths behind after Eau Rouge and could not get close with the DRS blown open. It was a good effort by Max as usual, but for sure nothing spectacular and certainly not schooling anybody.DDopey wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:43Nonsense, it was all about the first corner. When Piastri cam within 4 tenths out of the corner he could have had Max. Max was just to clever to let that happen.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:39Schooling is a bit of a stretch though when it is clear it is completely setup related. Both McLarens were quicker but could not overtake due to different DF settings. It’s just the way things played out.
This is not a decision that a driver makes. The team decides what is the best setup to maximize the package going forward. You think Oscar and Lando enjoy having this straight line deficit? It's a conscious choice made to maximize the car for them for the entire weekend, just like RedBull tries to maximize their package through a different setup.avantman wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:47True, but had the roles been reversed, Max would have still won in that Mclaren today.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:39Schooling is a bit of a stretch though when it is clear it is completely setup related. Both McLarens were quicker but could not overtake due to different DF settings. It’s just the way things played out.
By simply running less downforce at the rear, to start with. That I could pretty much guarantee you.
So, the main differentiator was the driver, not the car or its setup.
Imagine the kind of margin they have on others, to be able to afford decisions like this.
That is all hypothetical and may or may not have happened, so it’s no real argument to make a case here. Max sealed it on lap one, and then it was about not making mistakes. Good effort, but nothing special.avantman wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:47True, but had the roles been reversed, Max would have still won in that Mclaren today.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025, 12:39Schooling is a bit of a stretch though when it is clear it is completely setup related. Both McLarens were quicker but could not overtake due to different DF settings. It’s just the way things played out.
By simply running less downforce at the rear, to start with. That I could pretty much guarantee you.
So, the main differentiator was the driver, not the car or its setup.