Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

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rosberg is no more german than grosjean is french , they have both selected their nationalities for purely financial reasons , I seem to remember rosberg saying he had done so so at one point , and grosjean wasn't going to be backed by Total unless he chose french nationality
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In my mind, I have started to take a new look at 2007 and also a new look at the partnership with Button. It seems like maybe the other drivers are not the political types and maybe they are not to blame for the fighting within the team.

I find Hamilton´s behaviour very weak, they were quite close in the junior formulas and there are lots of stories that Keke was also not unkind to Lewis as well. For me Lewis shows a lack of respect towards Nico and to the other drivers in general.

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If you ask Hamilton he says Rosberg is more competitive in F1 then he ever was in karting when they raced together.
He said he was surprised at how much more competitive he is.

(Herbert/Hamilton at Goodwood interview)

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And now the --- has hit the fan ladies and gentlemen.
Meanwhile, Hamilton rankled at a reported comment by Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff after Silverstone that, following his Silverstone retirement, Rosberg offered Hamilton a piece of advice, or a ‘tip’, en route to victory.

“Toto said that?” Hamilton responded, joking: “That’s good. Toto likes being on that side of the garage.” (GMM)
Anyone know exactly what the comment was that Toto said?
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I dunno where it all came from, but the press reports him saying such thing. Why is there no interview filmed where he claims that Nico isn't German? Or are the press just fueling the championship fight.

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It was probably due to the fact that if Hamilton had an advantage in Britain, would Rosberg have one in Germany, and Hamilton has said that he wont because his home race is Monaco not Germany. But his choice of words were poor and with the way that articles conveniently miss out the questions asked that it sounds bad, which it does. This not the first time this has happened and will happen again. I just try and ignore it and focus on the brilliant racing driver part of Hamilton and forget about this tabloid stuff.
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WaikeCU wrote:I dunno where it all came from, but the press reports him saying such thing. Why is there no interview filmed where he claims that Nico isn't German? Or are the press just fueling the championship fight.
There's a link and direct quotes above. I'm perfectly fine with Hamilton concentrating on Rosberg not on himself like he did in Silverstone qualifying.

I think this answers any accusations that Merc might prefer Rosberg because he's German (unlike McLaren Ham situation), all posters saying that were wrong. That's not because they wanted him at McLaren or hired immediately when they bought the team, only LH's carting memories count.

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I think we should take a step back before judging these not really german comments.

The press (especially british press) love to stir the pot and mix and match things to completely take it out of context. Lets not forget the comments lewis was supposed to of made in monaco. Rosberg knew it wasn't true and what was actually said and lewis had no problem fully explaining what he meant and actually said infront of the press and nico.

When there is such a rivalry nothing is as it sounds when the press are writing it.

A good example as well is sky sports after canada. They claimed that lewis criticised his engineers because they said they could of done more. They showed the interview up to that point and cut to another driver interview. Only on the f1 show did they show the full interview where lewis admits he could of done more as well etc etc.

It just shows you can create a story out of nothing when well edited etc. I would expect thats whats prob. going on here as well

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Not maybe a nice message, but Lewis is spot on. Growing up in Monaco, karting under the Finnish flag and then picked the German nationality because of the sponsors. Monaco is his home race.

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yeah your right, but before i judge if he was right or wrong to say it i'd rather see the whole interview
Constructr wrote: Here is LH's quote: "I know he has grown up in Monaco so Monaco is his home town. It will be great to win in Germany. He is German, Finnish, Monégasque or whatever, so he will get that support in Monaco and in Germany he has always had great support there. It is always good to beat others on their home turf."

It's almost laughable. LH constantly runs his mouth about Nico, any chance he gets and to whoever will listen. I can't say that I've heard Nico say anything negative in the press about LH or his lack of character.

Whats even funnier is that after the British GP, you would think that LH had parted the sky or something. LH was gifted this race with Nico's gearbox retirement. Nothing more and nothing less. Granted, LH had 2 retirements but the second one was self inflicted. Nico needs to keep the pressure on Hamilton and he will continue to make mistakes.
And nico was gifted the first one then.

To a point. The failure of the unit had nothing to do with him. I'd suggest more that they learned from Lewis' retirement which allowed them to keep Nico in the race. Once they saw his rear brakes burnt out Nico had to run fully forward on the break bias to keep going

and my comments about not taking things out of context are mainly aimed at people like you who assume Lewis randomly comes out with this stuff.
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The media are desperate for the Lewis/Nico relationship to turn in to a copy of the Senna / Prost relationship. They're not interested in the cars or the racing; they just want scandal. Presumably because it's easier to write pages of opinion than actual factual technical car/race articles.
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MercedesAMGSpy wrote:Not maybe a nice message, but Lewis is spot on. Growing up in Monaco, karting under the Finnish flag and then picked the German nationality because of the sponsors. Monaco is his home race.
Until literally last week, German law stated that if you were born in Germany, you could maintain multiple nationalities that you inherited from parents as well as the right to a German passport, until age 18, and then you had to choose to be German or not. I know this as my kids have the same rights - they have 4 passports.

Until last year's coalition agreeement, which was passed into law last week (http://www.euronews.com/newswires/25822 ... tizenship/) that was the the law. German passport holders were not allowed to maintain multiple nationalities beyond age 18. At 18 you either became German or something else.

And that was obviously signed long after Nico Rosberg would have had to choose, in about 2002-2003 I guess. If Nico chose German, then that is his right, and that is his nationality.

Honestly Hamilton is an idiot sometimes. Where does he live again? Oh, that's right: Monaco. And both his parent emigrated to Britain from Grenada, which gives him an automatic right (by birth after 1974 to parents born in Grenada) to Grenadine citizenship and a passport, if he wants one.

It's a modern world. All this nationalism is just silly.
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basti313 wrote:
ringo wrote:
SectorOne wrote:I think Rosberg might edge him actually. He´s gelling with the car in all types of situations now and i think lady luck hasn´t entirely switched sides yet.
....So i expect them to be equal in the mickey mouse part of the track, but Hamilton with the edge in the braking zone after the long straight.
Like in Austria? :lol:
Hamilton was much faster in Austria. :|

Bar the rear axle lockup, he was a healthy couple tenths quicker, and it still supports the point that Hamilton has the edge on tracks with heavy braking zones.
Same goes for Canada.
We're talking about driving ability here, and in these three cases, we have seen where Hamilton has been quicker over the weekend, and even in the races. faster in Canada; messed up but still quicker in race, faster in Austria; messed up again but still quicker in the race, So we are predicting that Hockenheim can be similar in terms of pace.
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O please, Nico is no more German than I am. He has lived in Monaco his entire life.
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SidSidney wrote:Honestly Hamilton is an idiot sometimes.
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It's a modern world. All this nationalism is just silly.
We have to be cautious with judging Hamilton for what he says and how he looks. He is a Simon Fuller toy, he is a Spicegirl now.
His hairdo is also getting weirder and weirder, all this rap style, the British nationalism, the Union Jack hat, dress, underwear, bikini...and especially this talking wherever he has the chance...we have seen all this before at the Beckhams, Spicegirls and S club 7. Fuller is just selling this looking special, sometimes cute, sometimes hard. And first of all Fuller is NOT selling a rocket scientist as people only cheer to someone with whom they can identify themselves...and they will never identify with someone who is smarter than themselves.
So we should really concentrate on the track...and nothing else.
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dans79 wrote:O please, Nico is no more German than I am. He has lived in Monaco his entire life.
In this day and age, it's incredibly common to have multiple rights to nationality. That's the entire point of the European Union, by the way. Look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sp ... uto_racing

Alain Prost, the Armenian?
Bobby Rahal, the Lebanese?
Adrian Sutil, the Uruguayan?
Alex Yoong, the Brit?

I guess my point is: so what? What does it matter? Is this some kind of racist attack? If not, why does it matter?
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