2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[venkyhere]

there's a new floor

isn't a good sign. That means the team is still making 'fine-tune aero changes', while the elephant in the room is mechanical. To what avail, I wonder, when the this venturi floor business is going to be dead in a few months. Perhaps some learnings ? or what other reason to spend precious resouces, with only 9 races remaining and WDC/WCC out of reach anyway ?
This also means the "nice lowDF balance" found in Silverstone/Spa is again going to be rejigged and has to be reworked over FP1-FP2. The only reason RB21/Max didn't do well (be in the competitive ballpark as McLaren) in those two races is because the race director decided to do the exact opposite of what Redbull expected him to, and the race-trim wing/DF choices went completely wrong. That 'swert spot lowDF balance' has to be found again. Redbull are shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly. New floor in race 15 in September ? Not even Kick Sauber are performing such stunts.

[pantherxxx]

Kick Sauber don't have 600+ engineers working in their team like Red Bull do. It could mean that progress is very good with the 2026 challenger, so they can also spend some resources on this year's car. Winning even one more race this year could be a huge moral boost for the whole team.

[Vettel165]

Kick Sauber don't have 600+ engineers working in their team like Red Bull do. It could mean that progress is very good with the 2026 challenger, so they can also spend some resources on this year's car. Winning even one more race this year could be a huge moral boost for the whole team.

Indeed and we have more wind tunnel development time as Mclaren, Ferrari as we finished third in the standings last year.

[venkyhere]

It could mean that progress is very good with the 2026 challenger, so they can also spend some resources on this year's car. Winning even one more race this year could be a huge moral boost for the whole team.

spare resources ? really ? with a new regulation set chassis and a new regulation set engine just less than 6 months away before 'official test' ? Don't think so.
Most probably an update that 'slid down' the priority stakes from early season, due to other big problems they had ; and for 'morale boost' sake (as you rightly said) they decided to spend people, time and money on it.

[basti313]

It could mean that progress is very good with the 2026 challenger, so they can also spend some resources on this year's car. Winning even one more race this year could be a huge moral boost for the whole team.

spare resources ? really ? with a new regulation set chassis and a new regulation set engine just less than 6 months away before 'official test' ? Don't think so.
Most probably an update that 'slid down' the priority stakes from early season, due to other big problems they had ; and for 'morale boost' sake (as you rightly said) they decided to spend people, time and money on it.

Well, there are obviously resources to run this season:
- They surely have manufacturing resources for making X new floors/wings, whatever each season. That is their usual plan and if they stick to the allowance they planned, it should not hurt the budget. In case Yuki does not destroy too many, they can slide in new versions.
- They surely have the "old" car still at some points in the wind tunnel and do some dev on it. They need this to keep and check the correlation. They also have an operations team with aero sim, to prepare for the races, so possible improvements also coming from there.

[Watto]

Yep was going to say it might be good for correlation see how the wing tunnel testing (and the sim) correlates with the road. Something they have had issues with

[euv2]

Not looking bad at all, no major problems in any corners so far. Race pace is almost same as Norris and faster than PIA and FER (on hards). Podium is definitely on the cards, we'll see tomorrow how much the new engine and qualy mode makes up for the current soft tyre pace deficit.

[Xyz22]

If Max is ahead of Norris in quali or after the first lap, it's going to be a very easy win.

[search]

On German Sky, Marko just said that the team changed its approach recently, and is now going into practice more aggresively, which helps them to find their limits more quickly. About today's running, he was "very satisfied", and much closer to the front than expected, with some idea to improve the one lap pace still in the pipeline.

Asked about how much others had left, he said that according to their data, everyone was almost running at the limit already.

[AR3-GP]

Not looking bad at all, no major problems in any corners so far. Race pace is almost same as Norris and faster than PIA and FER (on hards). Podium is definitely on the cards, we'll see tomorrow how much the new engine and qualy mode makes up for the current soft tyre pace deficit.

If Max is ahead of Norris in quali or after the first lap, it's going to be a very easy win.

Stop the nonsense. Piastri missed FP1. Mclaren is fastest and it's not close.

[Xyz22]

Not looking bad at all, no major problems in any corners so far. Race pace is almost same as Norris and faster than PIA and FER (on hards). Podium is definitely on the cards, we'll see tomorrow how much the new engine and qualy mode makes up for the current soft tyre pace deficit.

If Max is ahead of Norris in quali or after the first lap, it's going to be a very easy win.

Stop the nonsense. Piastri missed FP1. Mclaren is fastest and it's not close.

I never said RB is faster than McLaren. I said that for whatever reasons, Max is ahead of Norris after lap 1 he is not going to be passed on track. Can absolutely bring the win home, especially against Norris or Piastri.

[euv2]

Not looking bad at all, no major problems in any corners so far. Race pace is almost same as Norris and faster than PIA and FER (on hards). Podium is definitely on the cards, we'll see tomorrow how much the new engine and qualy mode makes up for the current soft tyre pace deficit.

If Max is ahead of Norris in quali or after the first lap, it's going to be a very easy win.

Stop the nonsense. Piastri missed FP1. Mclaren is fastest and it's not close.

Which part of my comment is nonsense exactly? I didn't even say RBR are fastest, just that Max had race pace close to Lando.

[venkyhere]

Not looking bad at all, no major problems in any corners so far. Race pace is almost same as Norris and faster than PIA and FER (on hards). Podium is definitely on the cards, we'll see tomorrow how much the new engine and qualy mode makes up for the current soft tyre pace deficit.

If Max is ahead of Norris in quali or after the first lap, it's going to be a very easy win.

Stop the nonsense. Piastri missed FP1. Mclaren is fastest and it's not close.

While we are not sure about fuel loads, engine modes etc (both in Q and R sims), looking at the "body-language" from the helicopter and front on camera angles, Max is nailing Sector2 better than both McLarens, through the 2nd chicane and both Lesmo corners. Not sure about Sector3. However, based on Sector2 evidence, fairly confident that Ascari & Parabolica are nailed as well. Looked really good on the fuel runs. I think it's the best friday Redbull has had this year.

If the new floor is what is giving this brilliant balance, I have to eat my words from the previous post I made (about 'needless' waste of resources on a new floor this late into a ruleset ending season)

[Vettel165]

Yeah this is a low-drag car, it usually should be very good on this kind of track. We are struggling on the circuits like Hungary which requires very high level of downforce and the car has many balance issues there. But mainly its understeer and sliding around which is very bad for the tyres.

[euv2]

Not looking bad at all, no major problems in any corners so far. Race pace is almost same as Norris and faster than PIA and FER (on hards). Podium is definitely on the cards, we'll see tomorrow how much the new engine and qualy mode makes up for the current soft tyre pace deficit.

If Max is ahead of Norris in quali or after the first lap, it's going to be a very easy win.

Stop the nonsense. Piastri missed FP1. Mclaren is fastest and it's not close.

While we are not sure about fuel loads, engine modes etc (both in Q and R sims), looking at the "body-language" from the helicopter and front on camera angles, Max is nailing Sector2 better than both McLarens, through the 2nd chicane and both Lesmo corners. Not sure about Sector3. However, based on Sector2 evidence, fairly confident that Ascari & Parabolica are nailed as well. Looked really good on the fuel runs. I think it's the best friday Redbull has had this year.

If the new floor is what is giving this brilliant balance, I have to eat my words from the previous post I made (about 'needless' waste of resources on a new floor this late into a ruleset ending season)

Max was pretty good in sector 3, could follow Russell and Hamilton through the parabolica without having to correct or lift which made the overtakes possible on both during the race sim, this was a huge problem last year. Made a small mistake coming out of Ascari but even then, was 1 tenth off on the soft runs in sector 3.