2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Henk_v wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 17:31
Vettel165 wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 17:28
They might again qualify on medium tyres in qualy. This tyre works much better on this car.
Please read up on F1 rules. Medium tires can be 4 different compounds, depending on the venue...
Dont worry I know that.

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Just another absolutely clueless guy trying to clickbait people into watching his BS video.

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Pole, fastest lap, lead every lap, and win. Now tied with Lewis Hamilton for grand chelems.
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Rikhart wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 18:22
Just another absolutely clueless guy trying to clickbait people into watching his BS video.
You wouldn’t be saying that if it was a Mclaren steering wheel.

Nothing will come of it- if it’s anything then it will be ‘clarified’ but as we all know driver aids are banned and that looks like a driver aid to me.
Maybe they’ll get a big spanner out again to show the FIA that it’s nothing.
One things for sure, if the guy in the video has only just noticed it- the other teams will already be aware of it
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I'm curious about why the paddock perception and even with Red Bull and some here is that Singapore would "prove" something? Of the last 9 race weekends, Singapore is the most outlier circuit remaining. All slow speed Monaco set ups. No overtaking whatsoever. Why would Singapore therefore be a benchmark? Monza and Baku are similar to Las Vegas and Mexico. That makes 4 of the final 9 rounds closer to each other than anything like Singapore which has no comparison in the rest of the calendar.

Sure it would be positive to do well there, but Singapore is more of a one-off than Monza and Baku are. It starts to get silly to keep calling a circuit range of which at least 4 of the last 9 races will be contested in as the "one-off". If anything it's Mclaren (or rather their drivers), that still have to prove that they can win races outside of a circuit like Singapore where they don't have a 1 second advantage. A Mclaren 1-2 in Singapore will not tell us anything about the rest of the year because there are no more circuits like Singapore coming up.
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I guess its purely a benchmark from a title perspective. If Red Bull can beat McLaren there I think they actually can win everything else left modulo things going terribly wrong.

And once Max is on a run of wins we will see McLarens weakness show it's face. Especially with regard to their drivers. I think things will change quickly. Momentum is a very important thing.
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Singapore should be a Mclaren track, if Verstappen wins there then he’s favourite to win them all.

It’ll be interesting to see if Verstappen suffers from understeer and if his rear tyres wear out faster than the Mclarens with a high DF wing on like in Singapore and Mexico as the current big front wing and little rear wing is certainly giving him what he needs. If he can run this combo at most of the remaining tracks then he’s going to challenge for the majority of the wins and more than likely be on pole. It’ll all come down to the high temperatures or not so high temperatures at the remaining races
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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 20:40
I'm curious about why the paddock perception and even with Red Bull and some here is that Singapore would "prove" something? Of the last 9 race weekends, Singapore is the most outlier circuit remaining. All slow speed Monaco set ups. No overtaking whatsoever. Why would Singapore therefore be a benchmark? Monza and Baku are similar to Las Vegas and Mexico. That makes 4 of the final 9 rounds closer to each other than anything like Singapore which has no comparison in the rest of the calendar.

Sure it would be positive to do well there, but Singapore is more of a one-off than Monza and Baku are. It starts to get silly to keep calling a circuit range of which at least 4 of the last 9 races will be contested in as the "one-off". If anything it's Mclaren (or rather their drivers), that still have to prove that they can win races outside of a circuit like Singapore where they don't have a 1 second advantage. A Mclaren 1-2 in Singapore will not tell us anything about the rest of the year because there are no more circuits like Singapore coming up.
I think it is not about Singapore particularly, but rather to see the new package on a different kind of track and Singapore happens to be the next in line. If it would be Hungary or Mexico or Barcelona, then it would be just as good to validate the package under different circumstances (high-df setup).

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Henk_v wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 17:30
-Norris is close enough to Piastri again to start believing. Realistically, Max needs Norris and Piastri to go into the wall together soon.
If that happens it's really game on ...
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CjC wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 18:58
Rikhart wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 18:22
Just another absolutely clueless guy trying to clickbait people into watching his BS video.
You wouldn’t be saying that if it was a Mclaren steering wheel.

Nothing will come of it- if it’s anything then it will be ‘clarified’ but as we all know driver aids are banned and that looks like a driver aid to me.
Maybe they’ll get a big spanner out again to show the FIA that it’s nothing.
One things for sure, if the guy in the video has only just noticed it- the other teams will already be aware of it
The guy conveniently doesn't look into what Max's right hand is doing, at 7.10 presses something and when his hand goes back, the message appears. His left hand didn't press anything but that is what he showed..

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I don't see any corners in Singapore that should cause the RB21 any problems in particular, this car has mostly suffered on long radius corners, the types that are plenty in in Hungary and Zandvoort. Singapore is mostly sharp corners, very Baku like in that regard, most corners in low 100kmph range, not much in the MCL 160-220 range; the only major obstacles will be kerbs and how quickly the car settles from the bumps. Last year the RB20 avoided the kerbs like the plague, whilst Norris ran over them wherever he could, no problem. I expect Max to do more of this, this time round. If so, Max will be very competitive.

At no point during the Baku race was Norris really threatening Yuki, spent the end of the 1st stint 2secs away and not really able to close the gap. The MCL didn't really look particularly strong in the race in any sectors this weekend. I was expecting them to be strong in sector 2 but didnt happen. Max was by far the best in sector 2. Norris did have dirty air but usually MCL pace is strong enough to overcome this.

RB21 since the Monza upgrades has looked really solid all round, performance in the Lesmos and Parabolica with lower downforce Rear wing was really encouraging and now in Baku, performing really well in the low speed, esp. in race pace. Need a bit more luck to go our way but if Max can keep this up, the pressure will keep mountning and PIA will have to decide between keeping it safe and really going for it. 1 more DNF/stinker from Oscar is needed to really spice things up, as it will deter from MCL focussing on 1 driver. I'm happy that RBR has actually found something, this middle patch of the season was dire.

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Flawless week end for Max and RB, even Tsunoda got an honest result. I was surprised that they were able to carry on this form from Monza. The race was a one sided affair, but the McLaren were atrocious this time and I don't expect this situation to happen again. Beating the McLaren fair and square on the remaining track will remain a big challenge. Still 2 wins in a row and 4 wins total this year , with a lot of podium too, is a good result when you don't have the best car. Max delivered a lot this year.

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I don't believe for a second that we can rejoin the title fight, but surely it would be a good sign if the car was competitive in Singapore, in terms of problem understanding and solving.