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[Sergej]

Wache: “The main focus is also to beat Ferrari and Mercedes in the constructors’ championship.”

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Why? 2nd is the first loser and less aero time. P4 is a good position to carry extra resources into the start of next year.

I agree with your "pragmatic" view, but I understand Waché: getting the P2 in the WCC after all the problems in the last 18 months would be a great achievement for the technical department, a sort of "revenge" and proof that they can still solve problems and make a good car, especially for Waché himself who had to eat quite a lot of sh*t after Newey's departure.

Anyway it won't be easy.

[f1isgood]

Wache: “The main focus is also to beat Ferrari and Mercedes in the constructors’ championship.”

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Why? 2nd is the first loser and less aero time. P4 is a good position to carry extra resources into the start of next year.

I agree with your "pragmatic" view, but I understand Waché: getting the P2 in the WCC after all the problems in the last 18 months would be a great achievement for the technical department, a sort of "revenge" and proof that they can still solve problems and make a good car, especially for Waché himself who had to eat quite a lot of sh*t after Newey's departure.

Anyway it won't be easy.

Spot on.

[Sphere3758]

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Why? 2nd is the first loser and less aero time. P4 is a good position to carry extra resources into the start of next year.

I agree with your "pragmatic" view, but I understand Waché: getting the P2 in the WCC after all the problems in the last 18 months would be a great achievement for the technical department, a sort of "revenge" and proof that they can still solve problems and make a good car, especially for Waché himself who had to eat quite a lot of sh*t after Newey's departure.

Anyway it won't be easy.

Spot on.

Also the team bonuses in most cases are based on the constructors position. It is unfair to the engineers to finish lower on purpose.

[f1isgood]

I agree with your "pragmatic" view, but I understand Waché: getting the P2 in the WCC after all the problems in the last 18 months would be a great achievement for the technical department, a sort of "revenge" and proof that they can still solve problems and make a good car, especially for Waché himself who had to eat quite a lot of sh*t after Newey's departure.

Anyway it won't be easy.

Spot on.

Also the team bonuses in most cases are based on the constructors position. It is unfair to the engineers to finish lower on purpose.

Yeah for sure another valid point. Also WDC is only a pipe dream by any significant means right now. P2 is the most realistic goal as well.

[Farnborough]

Spot on.

Also the team bonuses in most cases are based on the constructors position. It is unfair to the engineers to finish lower on purpose.

Yeah for sure another valid point. Also WDC is only a pipe dream by any significant means right now. P2 is the most realistic goal as well.

Its more "academic" in notional outlook from those projecting this position on here. Absolutely its in team's DNA to perform the best in constructor standings and alien to achieve a downgrade of position by planning. Just ask anyone working within a team about it.

Of far more importance are the ideas and concepts that are then subjected to cfd aero etc. The tools don't make the concept but measure it . A team can have as much time available to them in this area, but without good direction and foundation it won't develop a successful outcome. Sauber being a case in point when ranking wind tunnel facilities etc, such high std but relatively nowhere in championship points, generally.

[PlatinumZealot]

So far Mekies is doing a stellar job. It's almost zero downsides compared to Horner.

Are we allowed to use Horner's nick-name here?

[ispano6]

“Hence, the inputs from Max and Yuki are vital to get these steps. They are the best sensors in the car. They certainly have contributed a lot to unlock the step in performance we seem to have found in these conditions.”

This. Hadjar nor Lawson contributed to the current vcarb. A lot of us engineers recognize this and put weight on the driver feedback aspect. Neither likely has the experience (we say 3 years) a

[pantherxxx]

Even if just 2nd in the constructors, they still get more wind tunnel and CFD time than Mclaren. And the other teams are not that good anyways, Mclaren will be the team to beat next year too.

[organic]

Wache: “The main focus is also to beat Ferrari and Mercedes in the constructors’ championship.”

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Why? 2nd is the first loser and less aero time. P4 is a good position to carry extra resources into the start of next year.

Matters for every single employee bonus and therefore critical for team morale. Red bull know they have the 2nd best car; they should be coming in 2nd.

[ispano6]

If they seriously are aiming for P2, then I would expect more teamwork to ensure Q3 for Yuki. The margins are tight and I wouldn't be surprised to see teammates from other teams giving a tow.

[Henk_v]

So far Mekies is doing a stellar job. It's almost zero downsides compared to Horner.

Are we allowed to use Horner's nick-name here?

Could the promotion of GP have anything to do with the new approach to the weekends?

So far Mekkies is still a placeholder for me. Yes, there is calm and yes there is result, but neither of them I can directly attribute to Mekies.

[Henk_v]

If they seriously are aiming for P2, then I would expect more teamwork to ensure Q3 for Yuki. The margins are tight and I wouldn't be surprised to see teammates from other teams giving a tow.

I think MV is at least seriously trying to get P2 in the WDC. If Lando comes in third after verstappen after being the WDC favourite early in the season, that will be brutal on him...

[_cerber1]

If they seriously are aiming for P2, then I would expect more teamwork to ensure Q3 for Yuki. The margins are tight and I wouldn't be surprised to see teammates from other teams giving a tow.

It's not fair or sporting. It's high time to resolve the issue with satellite teams.

[Waz]

If they seriously are aiming for P2, then I would expect more teamwork to ensure Q3 for Yuki. The margins are tight and I wouldn't be surprised to see teammates from other teams giving a tow.

It's not fair or sporting. It's high time to resolve the issue with satellite teams.

Lawson just defended for his life against Tsunoda. Any suggestions that VCARB drivers would help him even in Q2 is fantasy.

[_cerber1]

Lawson just defended for his life against Tsunoda. Any suggestions that VCARB drivers would help him even in Q2 is fantasy.

In fact, it's a reality; Ricciardo's best lap in Singapore 24, is further proof of that. The junior Red Bull team is under manual control. I wouldn't be surprised if the McLaren drivers suffer at their hands this season.