2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Emag wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:46
This season is one of Lando's worst. I don't know what's going on in the "backstage" and if there's something about the car he is not getting to grips with, but man, he is choking way too often. Q3 comes and it's more likely he doesn't deliver a good lap at this point.

There is a chance he might have been P2, or at least very close to it had he not messed up the chicane and the last corner :
https://i.imgur.com/UzLfT9Z.png
Thanks for doing this. Glad to see that the car had much more potential. I feel that Norris' issue is something that you cannot explain from a technical perspective at this point.
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Emag wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:46
This season is one of Lando's worst. I don't know what's going on in the "backstage" and if there's something about the car he is not getting to grips with, but man, he is choking way too often. Q3 comes and it's more likely he doesn't deliver a good lap at this point.

There is a chance he might have been P2, or at least very close to it had he not messed up the chicane and the last corner :
https://i.imgur.com/UzLfT9Z.png
So Oscar gains 0.2s in S1, then is 0.4s!!!! slower in 2nd part and Lando loses 0.3s towards the end.
Not sure focusing on one driver makes sense here. I guess they both had bad laps? That's weird, bcz I remember Oscar saying there was not much more left in the car post quali.

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Seerix wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 11:20
Emag wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:46
This season is one of Lando's worst. I don't know what's going on in the "backstage" and if there's something about the car he is not getting to grips with, but man, he is choking way too often. Q3 comes and it's more likely he doesn't deliver a good lap at this point.

There is a chance he might have been P2, or at least very close to it had he not messed up the chicane and the last corner :
https://i.imgur.com/UzLfT9Z.png
So Oscar gains 0.2s in S1, then is 0.4s!!!! slower in 2nd part and Lando loses 0.3s towards the end.
Not sure focusing on one driver makes sense here. I guess they both had bad laps? That's weird, bcz I remember Oscar saying there was not much more left in the car post quali.
That could be true for him, but Lando seemed to have more time in it. Oscar is quite fortunate to start P3 IMO. His lap was very beatable and he didn’t improve on his second run. Fortunately Kimi and Lando made mistakes and Ferrari were out to lunch.

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Seerix wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 11:20
Emag wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:46
This season is one of Lando's worst. I don't know what's going on in the "backstage" and if there's something about the car he is not getting to grips with, but man, he is choking way too often. Q3 comes and it's more likely he doesn't deliver a good lap at this point.

There is a chance he might have been P2, or at least very close to it had he not messed up the chicane and the last corner :
https://i.imgur.com/UzLfT9Z.png
So Oscar gains 0.2s in S1, then is 0.4s!!!! slower in 2nd part and Lando loses 0.3s towards the end.
Not sure focusing on one driver makes sense here. I guess they both had bad laps? That's weird, bcz I remember Oscar saying there was not much more left in the car post quali.
That could be because Lando might have maintained tires better over the lap and I always felt Lando was excellent around this track which is why it was shocking to me after FP2 the gap between him and Oscar.
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f1isgood wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 11:43
Seerix wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 11:20
Emag wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:46
This season is one of Lando's worst. I don't know what's going on in the "backstage" and if there's something about the car he is not getting to grips with, but man, he is choking way too often. Q3 comes and it's more likely he doesn't deliver a good lap at this point.

There is a chance he might have been P2, or at least very close to it had he not messed up the chicane and the last corner :
https://i.imgur.com/UzLfT9Z.png
So Oscar gains 0.2s in S1, then is 0.4s!!!! slower in 2nd part and Lando loses 0.3s towards the end.
Not sure focusing on one driver makes sense here. I guess they both had bad laps? That's weird, bcz I remember Oscar saying there was not much more left in the car post quali.
That could be because Lando might have maintained tires better over the lap and I always felt Lando was excellent around this track which is why it was shocking to me after FP2 the gap between him and Oscar.
already in practice Norris did some laps where he didn't have a single green mini sector in S1 and then went purple in the 2nd half of the lap. So yeah, it's very well possible that he approached the lap differently in Qualifying as well.

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Regarding yesterday do you think Norris impeded Verstappen in some way?

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 13:16
Regarding yesterday do you think Norris impeded Verstappen in some way?
Will you be happy with a 'yes' ?
And even if someone types a detailed answer with video/radio proof, will you change your opinion about the incident ?
Max and Redbull are always crying about sour grapes when they end up not achieving their objective, aren't they ?
Hence, this is a rhetorical question :D

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mwillems wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:49
Emag wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:46
This season is one of Lando's worst. I don't know what's going on in the "backstage" and if there's something about the car he is not getting to grips with, but man, he is choking way too often. Q3 comes and it's more likely he doesn't deliver a good lap at this point.

There is a chance he might have been P2, or at least very close to it had he not messed up the chicane and the last corner :
https://i.imgur.com/UzLfT9Z.png
UK Can't view that image
imgur.com is blocked in UK? :wtf:

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 13:16
Regarding yesterday do you think Norris impeded Verstappen in some way?
I actually don't think he was impeded at all honestly, they're blowing it way out of proportion. I saw it later from Max's onboard, Norris was too far to cause "dirty air" on the braking zone. He had a clear track ahead of him, and even as he started turning, Lando was already heading out of the next corner of the chicane, while Max had already locked up. Not only was he already out of the chicane (pretty much) when Max had already locked up, but he was also not even going full speed to claim he was causing the same disruption as in racing conditions.

Max just made a mistake and locked up. He rarely makes mistakes, but they do happen once in a blue moon. The "dirty air" is being used as an excuse and because it's Max, people are buying into it. If positions were reversed, I guarantee you Lando would be flamed everywhere as a crybaby.
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Oscar had a very good lap ruined by a marshalling error (Gasly slowing), seemed to be a pattern for him as he also encountered a yellow coming out as he entered the zone, so a very disrupted session. I think this masked the real difference between the two McLaren drivers but in general, Piastri tends to be better on fast circuits and fast corners.

Red Bull are desperate to help Max to a fifth WDC to secure his loyalty during next season's round of driver movements. It's still surprising how many and large Red Bull's late season updates are. Historically these measures are unusual given the WCC is over, the need to focus on next season's car, the cost cap, and the 69 point deficit to Piastri. If Max continues to chew into the lead it will encourage Red Bull to go full nuclear.

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I hope for a good start without any accidents. Good luck, lads

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Juzh wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 13:28
mwillems wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:49
Emag wrote:
05 Oct 2025, 10:46
This season is one of Lando's worst. I don't know what's going on in the "backstage" and if there's something about the car he is not getting to grips with, but man, he is choking way too often. Q3 comes and it's more likely he doesn't deliver a good lap at this point.

There is a chance he might have been P2, or at least very close to it had he not messed up the chicane and the last corner :
https://i.imgur.com/UzLfT9Z.png
UK Can't view that image
imgur.com is blocked in UK? :wtf:
That's what it tells me
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Here's hoping from an aggressive run into T1, but hopefully staying out of trouble as it can get a bit hairy.

Ideally between George and Max.
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Damn, that was close.

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Damaged front wing. Oh well.