2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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avantman wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 12:56
pantherxxx wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 12:49
Verstappen was faster than the Mercedes and Norris is Q2 too. Maybe RB20 is better to drive overall, at least for Max.
guys....it's always better to have a short look at the data first, everyone knows what f1-tempo is. Norris had a second lap in SQ2 where he was improving massively but aborted the lap in the end to hide pace. He himself was much slower in SQ3 than himself in SQ2 where he had much slower tire and slower track. Well well well...have we already seen something like that from the choker Lando??? Was it in Miami?
The fact that Mercedes came out so early in SQ3 tell us they were very confident in their pace on soft fueled for one fast lap only.
It's just shows that others had to over push to have a chance at pole, thus they made mistakes. Verstappen's car was so stable he got pole comfortably, without over doing anything. Ofc Max is the best driver of the grid, that's why it was possible, but it also shows that Red Bull is improving with their upgrades. They aimed to solve stability issues with the new floor, and it worked.

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Rikhart wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 11:46
Redbull now seems to me to have a flexier front wing, finally.
Why do you think that?

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avantman wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 12:56
guys....it's always better to have a short look at the data first, everyone knows what f1-tempo is. Norris had a second lap in SQ2 where he was improving massively but aborted the lap in the end to hide pace.
F1-Tempo doesn't work properly for aborted laps. Norris was 1 tenths faster only after S2, and slowed down right after:

Lap #1: 25.416 - 37.398 - 30.643
Lap #2: 25.372 - 37.322 - /

If you look at F1-Tempo only, you see an improvement which didn't exist.

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Sergej wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 13:31
Start with George inside will be a nightmare, I can easily see Max pushed wide into T1 and losing many places.

Let's hope for a repeat of last year's start.
Still amazes me that they don't swap the grid slots around because P2 always gets the jump on P1 on race day in recent years 2021, 2022, 2023 just seems to have more grip off the line.

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lio007 wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 13:53
Rikhart wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 11:46
Redbull now seems to me to have a flexier front wing, finally.
Why do you think that?
Looking at replays from his pole lap and comparing with other onboard footage from this year, this is purely visual feeling.

For example from Japan:



And then yesterday:


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search wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 13:59
avantman wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 12:56
guys....it's always better to have a short look at the data first, everyone knows what f1-tempo is. Norris had a second lap in SQ2 where he was improving massively but aborted the lap in the end to hide pace.
F1-Tempo doesn't work properly for aborted laps. Norris was 1 tenths faster only after S2, and slowed down right after:

Lap #1: 25.416 - 37.398 - 30.643
Lap #2: 25.372 - 37.322 - /

If you look at F1-Tempo only, you see an improvement which didn't exist.
so, it was still and improvement given how much grip a tire set loses on such demanding track as COTA after first push lap.

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This is proving to be a fantastic display of improved race pace

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So far, looking good. Great job by Max

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Yeah nicely managed. For once tyres didnt fall away. Bodes well for tomorrow.

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Simply lovely!

Nice pace in the car too given the management.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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So far so good (unexpectedly at least for me). Bring on.

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so they is nothing wrong with wind tunnell

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Perez not being able to get into top 8 and points with this car is insane...

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FNTC wrote:
19 Oct 2024, 20:47
Perez not being able to get into top 8 and points with this car is insane...
I love Perez and he’s been a great servant to the team, however I’d like to see Yuki or Lawson be given a go next year

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Honda pushing for Tsunoda to get promoted. Going off of the sprint race, he's certainly got my vote.
Lawson needs time. Perez is done.
"Regarding Tsunoda, our goal is for him to work hard and secure a seat at Red Bull Racing," said Watanabe.

"We believe he has the talent. Of course, driver decisions are ultimately up to the team, but as a partner we've strongly requested that Tsunoda be given the chance to drive and test in a Red Bull car. We want to at least give him the opportunity to showcase his ability.

"I've also spoken directly with Christian about this. He hasn't ruled it out. Nothing has been decided yet, but I think we need to proceed properly."

"If all goes well and Tsunoda's abilities are recognised, I believe he could remain with Red Bull beyond 2026 and compete for championships," he added.

"It would be ideal for Tsunoda to become more of a Red Bull driver. It's not as if he's parting ways with Honda forever. His current focus should be on securing a Red Bull seat, and if that's his goal, he should pursue it."
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10664471/