2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[M840TR]

Sainz lost 0.8 sec to Merc and around 0.4 sec to Renault/Haas etc in S3. This isn't a setup issue; they're just horrible in the slow corners like usual.

[fouad1979]

we're in trouble this weekend i dont think we will reach Q3 this week end dry or wet

We’ll get a better feel from the team in the FP report later. Set up may have been leaning towards tomorrow’s weather forecast.

we're in trouble in slow corners and the setup will not change anything its car concept the car is made for high speed corners this week end only Sainz maybe can grab a point and we need a little bit luck there are at least 5 cars faster than us

[M840TR]

we're in trouble this weekend i dont think we will reach Q3 this week end dry or wet

We’ll get a better feel from the team in the FP report later. Set up may have been leaning towards tomorrow’s weather forecast.

we're in trouble in slow corners and the setup will not change anything its car concept the car is made for high speed corners this week end only Sainz maybe can grab a point and we need a little bit luck there are at least 5 cars faster than us

Don't count Norris out yet. He was doing a lot of testing and lost 0.5 sec to Sainz in S2 which indicates high df setup or conservative engine modes. Plus rain is forecast for Sunday so anything can happen.

[fouad1979]

We’ll get a better feel from the team in the FP report later. Set up may have been leaning towards tomorrow’s weather forecast.

we're in trouble in slow corners and the setup will not change anything its car concept the car is made for high speed corners this week end only Sainz maybe can grab a point and we need a little bit luck there are at least 5 cars faster than us

Don't count Norris out yet. He was doing a lot of testing and lost 0.5 sec to Sainz in S2 which indicates high df setup or conservative engine modes. Plus rain is forecast for Sunday so anything can happen.

Norris is great no doubt but Sainz is faster in racepace this is i think the worst track for mclaren with budapest and singapore they 're going to suffer unfortunately

[Ground Effect]

we're in trouble this weekend i dont think we will reach Q3 this week end dry or wet

We’ll get a better feel from the team in the FP report later. Set up may have been leaning towards tomorrow’s weather forecast.

we're in trouble in slow corners and the setup will not change anything its car concept the car is made for high speed corners this week end only Sainz maybe can grab a point and we need a little bit luck there are at least 5 cars faster than us

Their race pace was still strong, at least from what was reported...

[fouad1979]

We’ll get a better feel from the team in the FP report later. Set up may have been leaning towards tomorrow’s weather forecast.

we're in trouble in slow corners and the setup will not change anything its car concept the car is made for high speed corners this week end only Sainz maybe can grab a point and we need a little bit luck there are at least 5 cars faster than us

Their race pace was still strong, at least from what was reported...

racepace in free practice is not a clear indicator our weakness is clear the slow corners and the 3 sector here we lost half s to Haas Renault and Racing point for me its clear this week end hope a wet race and some crashes from teams that are faster to get points

[M840TR]

we're in trouble in slow corners and the setup will not change anything its car concept the car is made for high speed corners this week end only Sainz maybe can grab a point and we need a little bit luck there are at least 5 cars faster than us

Don't count Norris out yet. He was doing a lot of testing and lost 0.5 sec to Sainz in S2 which indicates high df setup or conservative engine modes. Plus rain is forecast for Sunday so anything can happen.

Norris is great no doubt but Sainz is faster in racepace this is i think the worst track for mclaren with budapest and singapore they 're going to suffer unfortunately

Both drivers have usually carried qualy pace to race.

[diffuser]

looks like race pace for both Renault and McLaren are in the low 1:20s.


Race point, Haas, Alfa in 1:21 (although Kimi was all over the place).

Williams 1:22s


Merc was most consistently in the 1:18s but all 3 of the top teams were mostly in the 1:19s.


Did I miss anyone ?

[PhillipM]

There's gonna be a large temperature drop though, which means the tyre advantage the car has in hot conditions will be gone.

[Ground Effect]

looks like race pace for both Renault and McLaren are in the low 1:20s.


Race point, Haas, Alfa in 1:21 (although Kimi was all over the place).

Williams 1:22s


Merc was most consistently in the 1:18s but all 3 of the top teams were mostly in the 1:19s.


Did I miss anyone ?

STR?

[diffuser]

There's gonna be a large temperature drop though, which means the tyre advantage the car has in hot conditions will be gone.

Anything can happen in the rain, especially accidents. who know's what will happen.


Currently sitting at 63% of rain at time of quali and 21% chance for race. So looks like a wet quali and dry race.

[diffuser]

looks like race pace for both Renault and McLaren are in the low 1:20s.


Race point, Haas, Alfa in 1:21 (although Kimi was all over the place).

Williams 1:22s


Merc was most consistently in the 1:18s but all 3 of the top teams were mostly in the 1:19s.


Did I miss anyone ?

STR?

Oh thx, looking at Albon's number, similar to Renault McLaren.

[godlameroso]

Sainz lost 0.8 sec to Merc and around 0.4 sec to Renault/Haas etc in S3. This isn't a setup issue; they're just horrible in the slow corners like usual.

The slow corners are in sector 2 though. Sector 3 is mid speed corners, as it starts right after the fast right hander. It comprises the banked left hander, and the stadium section which only has 2 actual right hand corners, you brake for the first and dance with the throttle on the second. I think the biggest problem with McLaren isn't slow corners per-se, rather it is agility in the low-mid speed consecutive corners. Not enough downforce to help point the car, and if they do put on enough downforce to point the car the balance become tricky at higher speeds, and they lose their incredible traction.

[godlameroso]

There's gonna be a large temperature drop though, which means the tyre advantage the car has in hot conditions will be gone.

Anything can happen in the rain, especially accidents. who know's what will happen.


Currently sitting at 63% of rain at time of quali and 21% chance for race. So looks like a wet quali and dry race.

It's likely to rain both days, the question is a matter of timing, will it rain during the race, or during qualifying, and if it does will it rain more than once, or will it rain and dry. It's more accurate to say changing conditions are likely instead of just rain.

[M840TR]

Sainz lost 0.8 sec to Merc and around 0.4 sec to Renault/Haas etc in S3. This isn't a setup issue; they're just horrible in the slow corners like usual.

The slow corners are in sector 2 though. Sector 3 is mid speed corners, as it starts right after the fast right hander. It comprises the banked left hander, and the stadium section which only has 2 actual right hand corners, you brake for the first and dance with the throttle on the second. I think the biggest problem with McLaren isn't slow corners per-se, rather it is agility in the low-mid speed consecutive corners. Not enough downforce to help point the car, and if they do put on enough downforce to point the car the balance become tricky at higher speeds, and they lose their incredible traction.

S2 has long straights though. S3 is just a series of low to mid speed corners. Plus understeer - a prominent deficit in the car - is also accentuated by the sweeping nature of the corners in S3 unlike the point & shoot ones in S2.