2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Sergej wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 07:11
As far as I can see Italian tifosi are quite upset with Vasseur, they want him to go; even the press is starting to be quite critical, which is never a good sign. But he just got his renewal, right ? so he can basically blames the "wind between the buildings" (lol) for this disaster of a car and gets away with it.
They have been upset with him for a few races. It seems most fans were hoping for a big upgrade with the floor, that didn't happen and now all the pent up anger from the first half of the season is spilling out.

After Monza they were calling for his head, the stuff after this race is tame in comparison.

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The Tifosi are worthless, they are like the worst of the worst DTS fans!
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dans79 wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 14:47
The Tifosi are worthless, they are like the worst of the worst DTS fans!
Yes, sadly. As can be seen in this forum as well. The majority here I would not even call Tifosi. Just a bunch of new fans spewing hate. The forum is not what it once was.

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It’s been pretty clear that Vassuer is not fit for this job for a while now but more and more people are slowly realizing the reality of the situation.

The whole thing feels like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

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In my opinion (and as I'm sure some will agree) the problem with Ferrari resides at the Executive level.

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MTL79 wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 17:09
In my opinion (and as I'm sure some will agree) the problem with Ferrari resides at the Executive level.
It's a cultural issue I think. It's the opposite of the Mercedes (and probably now Williams) No Blame culture.
Felipe Baby!

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ToffeeTyres wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:41
Hamilton tried to give the place back to Charles but crossed the line 0.4 seconds ahead. Shows Lewis is a team player
Not so sure about that. If it would have been Max everyone would be all over him about what a terrible person he is. You cannot tell me that Lewis has so little car control he did not fabricate this.

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DDopey wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 19:14
ToffeeTyres wrote:
21 Sep 2025, 14:41
Hamilton tried to give the place back to Charles but crossed the line 0.4 seconds ahead. Shows Lewis is a team player
Not so sure about that. If it would have been Max everyone would be all over him about what a terrible person he is. You cannot tell me that Lewis has so little car control he did not fabricate this.
It's 8th and 9th place, not even Charles cares about it.

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deadhead wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 16:38
It’s been pretty clear that Vassuer is not fit for this job for a while now but more and more people are slowly realizing the reality of the situation.

The whole thing feels like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Not it’s not been pretty clear and it’s not even close to being the case. Why is Vasseur not fitting the role? If any, he’s brought improvements in various departments lacking performance for many years.

I really wonder what your arguments against Vasseur could be. The only negative thing about this team is related to the fact that the car has never really been up to the game and I really doubt that’s related to Vasseur in any way. You can even argue that in the 2.5 years he’s been team principle he’s had the chance to verify the weak points in the technical department, hence the restructuring for which you criticize him in a ridiculous way.

So tell me, how can Vasseur be the problem? What would firing him even change? I don’t know how long you’ve been following F1, but let me tell you - in case you don’t know - head rolling has not been the solution for many many years at Ferrari now.

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Vasseur is fine for this team.
And also, the truth will be 2026 for the team, and for him.

And I may add... that they should chase Verstappen
I think he would have won some races this year with this car.

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dans79 wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 14:47
The Tifosi are worthless, they are like the worst of the worst DTS fans!
This is offensive to me.

Unless you are talking about some of the Sainz fans from before, or the few Hamilton fans that are here just to stir the pot, I'd like to know why you feel this comment is warranted. Who was this aimed at? If it's the passion for your team, and the frustration when your team or drivers are failing, then you will find the same on any other team's forum. Whether it's Verstappen fans, Hamilton vs whomever his opponent is at the time, McLaren and Lando vs Piastri. No need to insult.

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Vasseur needs to stay, no matter how much time will pass to fix the team. We had change so many guys in the past with no obvious results in the end.
Ferrari needs a step back and put everything together right but this needs time, time that noone is willing to accept and we fell in non ending circle many years now.

And for Christ sake, DON'T even think to bring the toxic Horny in the team. I really never liked this guy.

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Jambier wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 20:24
Vasseur is fine for this team.
And also, the truth will be 2026 for the team, and for him.

And I may add... that they should chase Verstappen
I think he would have won some races this year with this car.
Which ones?

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LM10 wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 20:19
deadhead wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 16:38
It’s been pretty clear that Vassuer is not fit for this job for a while now but more and more people are slowly realizing the reality of the situation.

The whole thing feels like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Not it’s not been pretty clear and it’s not even close to being the case. Why is Vasseur not fitting the role? If any, he’s brought improvements in various departments lacking performance for many years.

I really wonder what your arguments against Vasseur could be. The only negative thing about this team is related to the fact that the car has never really been up to the game and I really doubt that’s related to Vasseur in any way. You can even argue that in the 2.5 years he’s been team principle he’s had the chance to verify the weak points in the technical department, hence the restructuring for which you criticize him in a ridiculous way.

So tell me, how can Vasseur be the problem? What would firing him even change? I don’t know how long you’ve been following F1, but let me tell you - in case you don’t know - head rolling has not been the solution for many many years at Ferrari now.
I can only say my arguments are pretty positive about the team.
They are much better in strategy, they dare to run different setups in free practice also getting more data in.
The car has its problems to me it seems it was on braking and changes made from friday to saturday which didnt work , but who cares in this season anymore.Both drivers seem happy and getting the most out of what they have got.
Changing the team principal again wouldnt change anything as it seems the team is improving alot.
Also Red Bull is improving alot since Christian isnt there anymore so was it al his fault ?

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codetower wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 20:48
This is offensive to me.

Unless you are talking about some of the Sainz fans from before, or the few Hamilton fans that are here just to stir the pot, I'd like to know why you feel this comment is warranted. Who was this aimed at? If it's the passion for your team, and the frustration when your team or drivers are failing, then you will find the same on any other team's forum. Whether it's Verstappen fans, Hamilton vs whomever his opponent is at the time, McLaren and Lando vs Piastri. No need to insult.
I'm talking about all of them since the late 60's or early 70's who constantly want heads to role when the team isn't winning everything. As bad as Ferrari has been this season they were 2nd in the WCC till baku, and even after this bad weekend they are only 4 points out of second.

Lot's of the Tifosi scream and rant and act like the team is in last place with 2 points. Imo the Tifosi are the reason Ferrari has such long dry spells, The executives spend to much time listening to what they want!
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