2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[Luscion]

[Rodak]

Matt2725 wrote:
W15, thought this was major Lewis influence of weight distribution etc to move more toward other team designs. Relatively a higher performance of the three iteration MB in this rule era. But now with ferocious opposition in immediate competition, both technical performance and team operational focus for all front four team.

Weight distribution is fixed by the regulations. From the 2024 F1 Technical Regulations, Section 4.2

With the car resting on a horizontal plane the mass measured at the front and rear axles must
not be less than the mass specified in Article 4.1 factored by 0.446 and 0.539 respectively at
all times during the qualifying practice session. Rounding will be to nearest 0.5kg.

[Farnborough]

Matt2725 wrote:
W15, thought this was major Lewis influence of weight distribution etc to move more toward other team designs. Relatively a higher performance of the three iteration MB in this rule era. But now with ferocious opposition in immediate competition, both technical performance and team operational focus for all front four team.

Weight distribution is fixed by the regulations. From the 2024 F1 Technical Regulations, Section 4.2

With the car resting on a horizontal plane the mass measured at the front and rear axles must
not be less than the mass specified in Article 4.1 factored by 0.446 and 0.539 respectively at
all times during the qualifying practice session. Rounding will be to nearest 0.5kg.

There was much talk of moving driver rearward and into an area that speculation had it (between driver and motor) had been used in facilitating the "Zero" type cooling concept, a re-arranging of mass if that's more accurate description. Also notably by insistence of LH and not from GR if the report of this was accurate.

Hence it APPEARED to give impression that Lewis was significantly attributed as primary demand.

This W15 does seem to be the more consistent performing design of the three. But now facing significantly more on target competition this season.

[Cs98]

"The best should always adapt" is cliche. The truth is somewhere in the middle. We saw Checo be almost on par with Verstappen when the redbull understeered and yet we would not accuse Max of underperforming during that period. Each and every driver has preferred vehicle responses that brings out the best.

Yes, Checo can perform close to the limit of an understeery car, as can Max. The difference is that Checo can't drive close to the limit of a neutral or oversteery car, and those make for a faster lap time all else equal.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

"The best should always adapt" is cliche. The truth is somewhere in the middle. We saw Checo be almost on par with Verstappen when the redbull understeered and yet we would not accuse Max of underperforming during that period. Each and every driver has preferred vehicle responses that brings out the best.

If Red Bull would build a car around Perez, the team would stop winning with that lazy boat. That's the difference, current car is too "quick" for Perez.

Perez got the Brazilian spec car to Vegas. With that car Verstappen won and Perez struggled with VCARBs at Vegas.

[rifrafs2kees]

All I'm saying is Max, Vettel, Kimi, Hamilton..all of them have a preferences; they are not gods. Nadal comes up on top over clay, on grass, Djokovic wins. They are human beings, not robots.

[AR3-GP]

Nadal comes up on top over clay, on grass, Djokovic wins. They are human beings, not robots.

Djokovic defeated Nadal atleast once on every grand slam surface. He was the only player to do so.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

All I'm saying is Max, Vettel, Kimi, Hamilton..all of them have a preferences; they are not gods. Nadal comes up on top over clay, on grass, Djokovic wins. They are human beings, not robots.

We have seen Vettel's, Räikkönen's, and Hamilton's weaknesses in adaptability. Max's are yet to be seen.

[GrizzleBoy]

All I'm saying is Max, Vettel, Kimi, Hamilton..all of them have a preferences; they are not gods. Nadal comes up on top over clay, on grass, Djokovic wins. They are human beings, not robots.

We have seen Vettel's, Räikkönen's, and Hamilton's weaknesses in adaptability. Max's are yet to be seen.

Whatever the car was like from Miami to Brazil, is surely part of it. It brought the spirit of Crashstappen back to the forefront for a couple races.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

All I'm saying is Max, Vettel, Kimi, Hamilton..all of them have a preferences; they are not gods. Nadal comes up on top over clay, on grass, Djokovic wins. They are human beings, not robots.

We have seen Vettel's, Räikkönen's, and Hamilton's weaknesses in adaptability. Max's are yet to be seen.

Whatever the car was like from Miami to Brazil, is surely part of it. It brought the spirit of Crashstappen back to the forefront for a couple races.

Verstappen has outperformed his teammate in every race this season. The spirit is like Senna and Schumacher was having when racing hard.

[f1isgood]

"The best should always adapt" is cliche. The truth is somewhere in the middle. We saw Checo be almost on par with Verstappen when the redbull understeered and yet we would not accuse Max of underperforming during that period. Each and every driver has preferred vehicle responses that brings out the best.

In which world did we see this? Do we live in the same world? Or is it the oh, Perez out-qualified Max once logic?

[AR3-GP]

Mercedes has been poor in Abu Dhabi over the years. I'm not expecting much.

[OverheatedTurbo]

Maybe this is the wrong thread for this question but what causes this single seater to be so bad with the rear tires? I know “low aeromap” and “stiff suspension” gets thrown here a lot, but surely there is much more to this than that, right?

Article from today, talks about Lewis' struggles with the car but you get the general idea of why it overheats its rears
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/arti ... k4gnzgv3no

Shovlin says: "If you look for a common theme, we have a car that is difficult to turn in the slower corners, and the way the drivers have to turn it is by sliding the rear on the way in and sliding the rear on the power on the way out.

"That adds [tyre] temperature, and dealing with that problem Lewis has found quite difficult.

"You could argue that Lewis was head and shoulders the best in the previous set of regulations. He certainly found driving the cars second nature.

"Lewis would set up the car so that, as the [rear of the] car came up [during braking] and you gained pitch, it would help you turn the car, and he relied on those elements. And that was how you generated performance in the previous set of regulations.

"He has struggled more with the way these cars run. These cars you need to run lower, you need to run stiffer, they are banging into the ground more, you haven't got as much movement in the platform from low to high speed."

Thank you! Lots of work for the boys and girls at Brackley this winter it seems.