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Toto Wolff on ORF: (The combination of) aero, mechanical downforce and the tyres are still incomprehensible.

[Alex_Z]

FIA are letting Lewis do celebration donuts with the podium finishers at the end of the race even if he doesnt finish on the podium himself, thats cool

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeQ4bc4XEAA ... =4096x4096

FIA, FoM and Liberty should atleast try to hide their bias towards LH and not openly genuflect in front of #blackjesus (an ok hashtag for his fans, considering how much PR is invested into portraying him as a victim because he is black, and how, he still is an unselfish messiah of the masses).

What about guys like Kmag, Zhou, Bottas, who may never race again ? Hamilton is only moving from one team to another

It's unacceptable to call blatant racists what they are according to the mods though. If you say something critical about the reigning champ, you are banned for 1 month. Utter racist drivel about Lewis? Nothing more than a telling off. We know what you are.

[dans79]

FIA are letting Lewis do celebration donuts with the podium finishers at the end of the race even if he doesnt finish on the podium himself, thats cool

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeQ4bc4XEAA ... =4096x4096

FIA, FoM and Liberty should atleast try to hide their bias towards LH and not openly genuflect in front of #blackjesus (an ok hashtag for his fans, considering how much PR is invested into portraying him as a victim because he is black, and how, he still is an unselfish messiah of the masses).

What about guys like Kmag, Zhou, Bottas, who may never race again ? Hamilton is only moving from one team to another

You could make your point without bringing race into it, right? Try harder, thank you.

FWIW, i agree, there's no need for such celebration as he's not retiring, he's just moving to Ferrari.

With respect, why does that post even still exist?

It seems pretty clearly in violation of this forum rule.

Posts targeted only at expressing favouritism or dislike towards people are treated as spam. They can hence be deleted without notice and could invoke a warning to the poster.

[Lasssept]

https://x.com/MercedesNewsUK/status/1865782874777018466

[GrizzleBoy]

FIA, FoM and Liberty should atleast try to hide their bias towards LH and not openly genuflect in front of #blackjesus (an ok hashtag for his fans, considering how much PR is invested into portraying him as a victim because he is black, and how, he still is an unselfish messiah of the masses).

What about guys like Kmag, Zhou, Bottas, who may never race again ? Hamilton is only moving from one team to another

You could make your point without bringing race into it, right? Try harder, thank you.

FWIW, i agree, there's no need for such celebration as he's not retiring, he's just moving to Ferrari.

With respect, why does that post even still exist?

It seems pretty clearly in violation of this forum rule.

Posts targeted only at expressing favouritism or dislike towards people are treated as spam. They can hence be deleted without notice and could invoke a warning to the poster.

I realised a year or so ago that theres a certain level of tolerance for this type of thing when McLaren111 or whatever his username is now said that the floor rules were changed "just because a black man complained" and nothing was done except to delete the post. If I hadn't seen it before it was swiftly deleted it would've been like nothing hapoened.

There definitely is not a zero tolerance policy when it comes to the R word.

[Seanspeed]

Calls for 'civility' have protected racists for many, many decades. Sure, what that person said clearly harbored race-based resentment, but it's actually YOU who are the bad guy if you call it out. Be more civil!

[rifrafs2kees]

Calls for 'civility' have protected racists for many, many decades. Sure, what that person said clearly harbored race-based resentment, but it's actually YOU who are the bad guy if you call it out. Be more civil!

[kenshi_blind]

Calls for 'civility' have protected racists for many, many decades. Sure, what that person said clearly harbored race-based resentment, but it's actually YOU who are the bad guy if you call it out. Be more civil!

How dare you call the mods out .. Watch the thread get closed in 5...4...3...2...1

[Luscion]

[venkyhere]

FIA are letting Lewis do celebration donuts with the podium finishers at the end of the race even if he doesnt finish on the podium himself, thats cool

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeQ4bc4XEAA ... =4096x4096

FIA, FoM and Liberty should atleast try to hide their bias towards LH and not openly genuflect in front of #blackjesus (an ok hashtag for his fans, considering how much PR is invested into portraying him as a victim because he is black, and how, he still is an unselfish messiah of the masses).

What about guys like Kmag, Zhou, Bottas, who may never race again ? Hamilton is only moving from one team to another

There is so much hue and cry calling me a racist. I am not. I am a coloured person myself.
I was pointing to how the 'race' card is played by LH's PR team (and himself in some interviews 'saying without saying the word') to portray him as the victim of great injustice in his career, purely because of race. THis is a "money" sport. Even if a team owner/principal is a racist, he has to swallow his personal views and hire 'talent' and pay good money for it. LH has been the highest paid and most in-demand driver for a decade, yet the marketing circus around him has to use 'race' as a trump card to 'enhance his heroism'.
You people are too naiive, if you think the word 'black' in my post means I am racist. I am pointing out how 'race' is being used as a tool. Even without that tool, LH is one of the all time greats of the sport.
LH is every bit the 'typical' F1 driver - selfish, opportunistic, tantrum-throwing, but insanely talented, with an irrevocable zeal for winning. That's what makes him a record breaker champion. It comes with flaws too. It doesn't make him a 'messiah'. In fact, there can't be a messiah in any sport, because sporting success is founded on talent backed by a superiority-complex : 'I am better than the rest'. It's impossible to stay motivated without that mindset.

[Quantum]

FIA are letting Lewis do celebration donuts with the podium finishers at the end of the race even if he doesnt finish on the podium himself, thats cool

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeQ4bc4XEAA ... =4096x4096

FIA, FoM and Liberty should atleast try to hide their bias towards LH and not openly genuflect in front of #blackjesus (an ok hashtag for his fans, considering how much PR is invested into portraying him as a victim because he is black, and how, he still is an unselfish messiah of the masses).

What about guys like Kmag, Zhou, Bottas, who may never race again ? Hamilton is only moving from one team to another

There is so much hue and cry calling me a racist. I am not. I am a coloured person myself.
I was pointing to how the 'race' card is played by LH's PR team (and himself in some interviews 'saying without saying the word') to portray him as the victim of great injustice in his career, purely because of race. THis is a "money" sport. Even if a team owner/principal is a racist, he has to swallow his personal views and hire 'talent' and pay good money for it. LH has been the highest paid and most in-demand driver for a decade, yet the marketing circus around him has to use 'race' as a trump card to 'enhance his heroism'.
You people are too naiive, if you think the word 'black' in my post means I am racist. I am pointing out how 'race' is being used as a tool. Even without that tool, LH is one of the all time greats of the sport.
LH is every bit the 'typical' F1 driver - selfish, opportunistic, tantrum-throwing, but insanely talented, with an irrevocable zeal for winning. That's what makes him a record breaker champion. It comes with flaws too. It doesn't make him a 'messiah'. In fact, there can't be a messiah in any sport, because sporting success is founded on talent backed by a superiority-complex : 'I am better than the rest'. It's impossible to stay motivated without that mindset.

Cmon man. Completely unnecessary.

[CMSMJ1]

PMs sent to many - turn the page please.



It's nearly time for 2025 AMG thread

[basti313]

It's nearly time for 2025 AMG thread

And on that bombshell....Goodnight!

As most of you will be active in other threads next year: It was a pleasure to have fun with you in the AMG threads for the last 10 years!

Have a nice Christmas and see you @Ferrari or @McLaren next year!

[DGP123]

It's nearly time for 2025 AMG thread

And on that bombshell....Goodnight!

As most of you will be active in other threads next year

Should be like a morgue

Not expecting anything from Merc next year. Still look a miles off, with no clear understanding of this reg. I can only envisage this thread being remotely interesting, if Antonelli really does step up and beats Russell on a regular basis.

[SiLo]

FIA are letting Lewis do celebration donuts with the podium finishers at the end of the race even if he doesnt finish on the podium himself, thats cool

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeQ4bc4XEAA ... =4096x4096

FIA, FoM and Liberty should atleast try to hide their bias towards LH and not openly genuflect in front of #blackjesus (an ok hashtag for his fans, considering how much PR is invested into portraying him as a victim because he is black, and how, he still is an unselfish messiah of the masses).

What about guys like Kmag, Zhou, Bottas, who may never race again ? Hamilton is only moving from one team to another

There is so much hue and cry calling me a racist. I am not. I am a coloured person myself.
I was pointing to how the 'race' card is played by LH's PR team (and himself in some interviews 'saying without saying the word') to portray him as the victim of great injustice in his career, purely because of race. THis is a "money" sport. Even if a team owner/principal is a racist, he has to swallow his personal views and hire 'talent' and pay good money for it. LH has been the highest paid and most in-demand driver for a decade, yet the marketing circus around him has to use 'race' as a trump card to 'enhance his heroism'.
You people are too naiive, if you think the word 'black' in my post means I am racist. I am pointing out how 'race' is being used as a tool. Even without that tool, LH is one of the all time greats of the sport.
LH is every bit the 'typical' F1 driver - selfish, opportunistic, tantrum-throwing, but insanely talented, with an irrevocable zeal for winning. That's what makes him a record breaker champion. It comes with flaws too. It doesn't make him a 'messiah'. In fact, there can't be a messiah in any sport, because sporting success is founded on talent backed by a superiority-complex : 'I am better than the rest'. It's impossible to stay motivated without that mindset.

Lewis has, many times and at great length, described the systemic racism he has had to deal with. There are also plenty of times it was public and evident. I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make, other than that you are not racist (which I agree, that statement, while based on race, is not in and of itself, racist).