2025 McLaren F1 Team

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trinidefender
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:31
Piastri did nothing wrong there. Hulkenberg and Alonso punted on him. It's a pity as he DNFed by something out of his control. Piastri has to take into consideration Max, the two Racing Bulls, Norris, his own team and now midfield drivers also who don't know how to avoid. I couldn't ask for a better fixed result.
Piastri was late turning into the apex due to trying to cut back in behind Norris. By the time he turned in Hulkenburg and Alonso were already there. What exactly did you expect both of those drivers to do? They were already commited to the corner.

Like I said earlier, while technically piastri might have been correct (even this I'm not sure of), it was a VERY silly move by Piastri. He was too focused on overtaking Norris and not enough on what the other 18 cars around him were doing.

FNTC
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:38
I disagree. Oscar did not turn into Hulk as Hulk had space to move. Alonso punted Hulk who punted into Oscar.
Cognitive dissonance much? Oscar turned into Hulk who hit Alonso...

Watto
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FittingMechanics wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:34
Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:31
Piastri did nothing wrong there. Hulkenberg and Alonso punted on him. It's a pity as he DNFed by something out of his control. Piastri has to take into consideration Max, the two Racing Bulls, Norris, his own team and now midfield drivers also who don't know how to avoid. I couldn't ask for a better fixed result.
Piastri should have been aware he has Hulk on his left shoulder. Without his aggressive cutback it is a clean start.
I think particularly lap 1 first turn I think it's very likely someone would be there. Nothing too intentional though.

Tvetovnato
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It is no ones fault, simple as that. Piastri left space on the inside for a car, but Hulk did too as Alonso went in as well. You cannot account for everything all the time. If anything is a racing incident, this is. As the stewards judged.

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FNTC wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:38
Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:38
I disagree. Oscar did not turn into Hulk as Hulk had space to move. Alonso punted Hulk who punted into Oscar.
Cognitive dissonance much? Oscar turned into Hulk who hit Alonso...
Hulk had enough space for both him and Piastri to move until the point Alonso hit him otherwise it would have been a clean move.

CjC
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Pretty sure there’ll be some track limits at the first corner in tomorrow’s race, they’d be wise to take a strike from the stewards than take a strike from another car
Just a fan's point of view

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:40
FNTC wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:38
Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:38
I disagree. Oscar did not turn into Hulk as Hulk had space to move. Alonso punted Hulk who punted into Oscar.
Cognitive dissonance much? Oscar turned into Hulk who hit Alonso...
Hulk had enough space for both him and Piastri to move until the point Alonso hit him otherwise it would have been a clean move.
You are either blind or stupid

FittingMechanics
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Oscar is super lucky Norris got caught in this. This could have easily been just Piastri/Hulk DNF and his gap gets slashed to 15 or so points.

Now Max benefited from this. Let's hope they run good races and don't get under Max threat because I am not sure they can handle his tricks.

Ben1980
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Gothrek wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:38
Lando took a very wide approach to the first turn after a poor start, as Piastri had a better start. Piastri had to cut to the inside, otherwise he would have lost many more places. If Lando would have take a sharper turn and not trying to force Piastri out, they both would have made it. Stupid moves on both sides. Racing incident.
It was a racing incident. Same as Singapore. But, if the team have gone further because the actions of one impacted tge other, they have to do the same here.

Szabi1112
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Quoation from other thread:
“Mclaren is cooked, they have no data from the sprint. While other teams will adjust their setup based on their data, Mclaren can't do that.“

I must agree

CjC
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Szabi1112 wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:50
Quoation from other thread:
“Mclaren is cooked, they have no data from the sprint. While other teams will adjust their setup based on their data, Mclaren can't do that.“

I must agree
Whilst factually correct.
What if the Mclarens are already set up perfectly?
Stella said after sprint quali that they will ‘fine tune’ the set up, maybe they already have an idea as to what to change?
Just a fan's point of view

SchuMassa
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:40
FNTC wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:38
Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:38
I disagree. Oscar did not turn into Hulk as Hulk had space to move. Alonso punted Hulk who punted into Oscar.
Cognitive dissonance much? Oscar turned into Hulk who hit Alonso...
Hulk had enough space for both him and Piastri to move until the point Alonso hit him otherwise it would have been a clean move.
Now I know blind people also watch races...

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:31
Piastri did nothing wrong there. Hulkenberg and Alonso punted on him. It's a pity as he DNFed by something out of his control. Piastri has to take into consideration Max, the two Racing Bulls, Norris, his own team and now midfield drivers also who don't know how to avoid. I couldn't ask for a better fixed result.
Darth-Piekus wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 19:35
Hulk should have been aware he could not make that turn. He wasn't even half a car and he is supposed to be an experienced driver. The same goes for Alonso.
How many years did you say that you have been watching F1 for ?

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SilviuAgo
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Hard to watch a race without McLaren. Imo this is on Oscar. And all the discussion after Singapore is blew after what happened today. Stella and Oscar made such a case after Max - Lando contact that affected Oscar that karma said today to pay something back.
If you want to win the championship you have to be smart, but with his approach in T1 Oscar wasn't.
Hard to take it but the positive part, if there is such, that was "only the Sprint" and Max recovered 8 not 25.

geogate
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In some way I agree. Both our drivers seem to be form drivers - at the moment Oscar isnt on form