[ 2020 ] Scuderia Ferrari - Ferrari

[Jolle]

Does Seb have cracks painted on his helmet where the white prancing horse used to be? He seems utterly upset because he was broken up with. I don't think Ferrari have done themselves a service by deciding everything before the start of the season at all...

The reality is somewhat less-dramatic... but beautiful!

Ah, yeah, thanks! Just after I posted, they explained it on sky. Thanks, still!

but... it's the second race the prancing horse has left his helmet design... so, he obvious feels no need to shout his love for Ferrari from the roof tops.

[Ringleheim]

New front wing, new floor, new diffuser, torrential rain in Qualifying...and Ferrari are still 2 seconds + off the pace.

Let's hope this is Binotto's last season with the Scuderia.

[TAG]

honestly, I think the team's biggest problem is they are always in a hurry to try and win. Sometimes you just have to accept that you're not going to win for a while and start over fresh.

What gave it away? Mission Win Now?

[AngelicPrincess]

New front wing, new floor, new diffuser, torrential rain in Qualifying...and Ferrari are still 2 seconds + off the pace.

Let's hope this is Binotto's last season with the Scuderia.

This has always been the problem with Ferrari. Whenever Ferrari has a bad season the Italian media and the fans call for whoever is at the top to be fired. Despite what they might have achieved previously or what they are trying to build. So they get fired, and then someone else comes in to pick up the pieces, progress falls even further behind and the processes is repeated. Since meaningful long term improvements cant happen Ferrari is just left further and further behind. The biggest problem with this attitude in my opinion is that it is very hard to attract people. Why would any other big name go through the trouble of moving to Italy just to have people asking for their head on a plate in 2 years because of a hiccup in progress?

[Pyrone89]

New front wing, new floor, new diffuser, torrential rain in Qualifying...and Ferrari are still 2 seconds + off the pace.

Let's hope this is Binotto's last season with the Scuderia.

This has always been the problem with Ferrari. Whenever Ferrari has a bad season the Italian media and the fans call for whoever is at the top to be fired. Despite what they might have achieved previously or what they are trying to build. So they get fired, and then someone else comes in to pick up the pieces, progress falls even further behind and the processes is repeated. Since meaningful long term improvements cant happen Ferrari is just left further and further behind. The biggest problem with this attitude in my opinion is that it is very hard to attract people. Why would any other big name go through the trouble of moving to Italy just to have people asking for their head on a plate in 2 years because of a hiccup in progress?

This. Especially then seeing those same persons shine at Mercedes (Costa, Allisson).

[Macklaren]

honestly, I think the team's biggest problem is they are always in a hurry to try and win. Sometimes you just have to accept that you're not going to win for a while and start over fresh.

What gave it away? Mission Win Now?

HA that's a good one

[Jolle]

honestly, I think the team's biggest problem is they are always in a hurry to try and win. Sometimes you just have to accept that you're not going to win for a while and start over fresh.

What gave it away? Mission Win Now?

HA that's a good one

They took it off the cars for last week, probably due to rules.... now they have the phrase "essere Ferrari', which translates I believe in "be Ferrari". So, for all the overachievers under us, that needed to win now, tenth is good enough in these difficult times.

[Deadpool]

Just facepalm,nothing else for reds. Facepalm

[JPBD1990]

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This has always been the problem with Ferrari. Whenever Ferrari has a bad season the Italian media and the fans call for whoever is at the top to be fired. Despite what they might have achieved previously or what they are trying to build. So they get fired, and then someone else comes in to pick up the pieces, progress falls even further behind and the processes is repeated. Since meaningful long term improvements cant happen Ferrari is just left further and further behind. The biggest problem with this attitude in my opinion is that it is very hard to attract people. Why would any other big name go through the trouble of moving to Italy just to have people asking for their head on a plate in 2 years because of a hiccup in progress?
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Exactly! The media, and ‘fans’ will be gunning for Mattia from tonight until the next race, and probably until next season. And then if they’re not immediately winning, the next season and the next season.

I hope what he’s doing is investigating what has lead to a situation like this. Ferrari seemingly have upgrades go wrong, and has done for the last decade or so. Why? Do they need more compute power for CFD? Do they need more/better CFD engineers?

They have the money, so they need to understand what redbull and Mercedes are able to do which they’re not. Knowing it’s not resources, what. Is. It?

That’s not Binotto, or arrivebene, or any who came before either. Ferrari can’t win everything all the time. Fans need to let go of the Schumacher era.

[Manfer]

Anyone in their right mind would not fire an employee who has been with the company for 25 years. A capable one at that too. You will have to look into supplementing his skills with additional work force.
I believe this is the time for the true fans to show support. Stand behind Binotto. If there is one person who knows Ferrari’s internal politics, it would be him.

[Big Tea]

Anyone in their right mind would not fire an employee who has been with the company for 25 years. A capable one at that too. You will have to look into supplementing his skills with additional work force.
I believe this is the time for the true fans to show support. Stand behind Binotto. If there is one person who knows Ferrari’s internal politics, it would be him.

I can not help but think the peter principle has struck here. Good people are good people at what they do, not what they may be doing. Some times it works, some times not. It does not make them any worse at what they were

[Mansell89]

It has been said already but the starting point for Ferrari is sorting out the PU. How can they be so poor in an era that’s absolutely designed for them to win? Unbelievable.

[Scorpaguy]

Anyone in their right mind would not fire an employee who has been with the company for 25 years. A capable one at that too. You will have to look into supplementing his skills with additional work force.
I believe this is the time for the true fans to show support. Stand behind Binotto. If there is one person who knows Ferrari’s internal politics, it would be him.

I can not help but think the peter principle has struck here. Good people are good people at what they do, not what they may be doing. Some times it works, some times not. It does not make them any worse at what they were

Matti's performance had the team on a downward trajectory...so his firing, while possibly ill-advised, was understandable. Arri's firing is what seems strange to me...as the team was on an upward trajectory. This one seemed pure politics and lack of patience. Arri, while a "fighter", did not seem as adroit as Bino at intra-season development. Bino thus far has been an incredibly slow starter, but has come thru with good intra-season development. I suspect he had better do thusly if he wishes for red overalls next season. However, development pace is hampered by lack of both drivers failing to make it past the first corner.

[jumpingfish]

When it was announced that Vettel had been kicked out, I got angry at first. But now I think that this is better for him, at 33 he looks 40 years old +. A year or two will pass, Leclerc and Sainz will continue to flounder in the middle of the field and are drenched in mud from fans.

During this year, if Ferrari’s form does not improve, Binotto will be demoted. He should again focus on the technical side, and they need to find some German-Austrian-British leaders. I envied when McLaren signed Andreas Seidl, such a person would need to be found by Italians. Ferrari has authority below the plinth now, fans and haters laugh at them in social networks, this is not the formidable team for which everyone else made concessions, there is no political weight at all. Botanist leaders like Camilleri and bespectacled Binotto should stop bragging about past historical successes and realize that political squabbles, backstage fussing, and intrigues do not lead to success.

Their factory in Maranello should be reviewed from the base to the ceiling, all the technologies that they use for the construction of F1 must be subjected to detailed analysis, each instrument inspected, the windtunnel tuned and the CFD tools revised, the simulators modified, new and old. You cannot hope to build championcar in 2022 if your instruments always fail you and there is no correlation between the track and the factory.
This must be started now. It is necessary to interrupt work on this dead nag SF1000 and focus on creating a solid foundation. There is no point in wasting time to bring “updates”, which consist in the fact that they swapped pathetic holes in the bottom or some wing bent slightly from a different angle - this is useless trash.

[GTO99]

Just facepalm,nothing else for reds. Facepalm

same here!
So many problems @ Ferrari. One way or another, they keep shooting themselves in the foot.
This is Binotto's opportunity to demonstrate he is team principal material. I'll give him 2 yrs.
In 2 yrs, McL have turned themselves around from back markers to best of the rest.
Let's see if Ferrari can do better with a bigger budget or if they start whining about quitting.