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[euv2]

It seems waché said the next upgrade will not come at the next GP. But he said this prior to COTA. so from Mexico onwards we can hope for something

I'm thinking something small, like rear corner or brake ducts. Will be very surprised if it's anything big like a front wing or anything floor related.

[pantherxxx]

Mexico could be tougher for McLaren than COTA. With race temperatures around 25–26°C and cloudy, they won’t be able to count on their usual advantage in hotter conditions.

[organic]

Mexico could be tougher for McLaren than COTA. With race temperatures around 25–26°C and cloudy, they won’t be able to count on their usual advantage in hotter conditions.

But due to thin air cooling is always more difficult there which should play to their strengths, and their high drag won't be so penalising

[f1isgood]

For next season hopefully others figure out this cooling trickery. Otherwise, the Orange cars might crush the regulations. It's a tire formula atp

[euv2]

For next season hopefully others figure out this cooling trickery. Otherwise, the Orange cars might crush the regulations. It's a tire formula atp

Don't think it'll be a big differentiator this early into the regs, aero/suspension/PU will all play a bigger part and that where the bulk of the focus will be, teams will be scrambling to copy the best design. Once they start to converge, it would be good if everyone else figures it out by then.

[f1isgood]

For next season hopefully others figure out this cooling trickery. Otherwise, the Orange cars might crush the regulations. It's a tire formula atp

Don't think it'll be a big differentiator this early into the regs, aero/suspension/PU will all play a bigger part and that where the bulk of the focus will be, teams will be scrambling to copy the best design. Once they start to converge, it would be good if everyone else figures it out by then.

It gives you essentially a few tenths worth lap time though. That is a significant advantage. I just hope teams are looking into it in any case. I am sure they are, but the sooner we see good solutions, the more iterations there will be.

[euv2]

For next season hopefully others figure out this cooling trickery. Otherwise, the Orange cars might crush the regulations. It's a tire formula atp

Don't think it'll be a big differentiator this early into the regs, aero/suspension/PU will all play a bigger part and that where the bulk of the focus will be, teams will be scrambling to copy the best design. Once they start to converge, it would be good if everyone else figures it out by then.

It gives you essentially a few tenths worth lap time though. That is a significant advantage. I just hope teams are looking into it in any case. I am sure they are, but the sooner we see good solutions, the more iterations there will be.

I get the feeling that teams have already improved slightly, maybe simply through higher downforce or better balance. In the beginning of the season everyone was struggling to keep the tires alive in sector 3 for most qualys, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Over long stints in hot conditions they are still superior but by a lesser margin now.

We never really seem to be hear about rear cooling updates anymore, Red Bull were supposed to bring one but there was no indication besides Dr.Obbs that they might have changed things, the team were quiet on the subject.

[AR3-GP]

Does Honda still have an advantage at high altitude?

[Sergej]

Not anymore, or at least not as much as in the past.

[f1isgood]

Agree with Sergej. Don't think they've hand an advantage even since 2021. RB20 being straight up ass last year didn't help but this car is much more well rounded. Should be interesting to see what happens.

[organic]

Does Honda still have an advantage at high altitude?

I don't think so. Their changes for the 2021 season seemed to make them competitive across the board but gave up the altitude advantage.

[TNTHead]

I thought so too that after the Honda Jet division optimised the split turbo layout the turbo itself became smaller which had as side effect lower benefits at lower atmospheric pressure.

[Vettel165]

Is it possible again like in 2022? It also happened in 2010, Vettel was 25 points down on Alonso with 2 races remaining, and then winning it by 4 points. Very hard of course, but for now not impossible. I really want a Max domination in Mexico, thats the only way. We dont need drama in the next 2-3 races, just winning would be enough to still have a chance.

[Sergej]

In 2022 Max took quickly the lead thanks to Ferrari self-destroying with engine failures and clown strategies. I don't see this happening with McLaren. Plus of course in 2022 there was an entire season to be run, the problem now is that Max basically need to win always, one missed win and he's practically out.

[venkyhere]

I really want a Max domination in Mexico, thats the only way. We dont need drama in the next 2-3 races, just winning would be enough to still have a chance.

In Mexico, with one of the longest distances from start to T1 ?
Lap1 T1 drama is as much paved into the circuit as much as the tarmac is.

Only if Redbull go super aggressive into having a 'light' car ( 'mid' rear/beam wings that are in between Baku (low) and Austin (mid-high) alongwith the new massive front wing ) and can manage the medium speed section (T7 to T11) without losing time ; and then if Max can somehow deal with the three slow speed clusters (1-2-3 , 4-5-6 , 12->17), despite the thin air ; can 'drama' be avoided.