2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[peewon]

A new interesting statistic, from @formulamoments, is showing that if Lance Stroll scored 0 points in 2023 and 2024, Aston still would have finished 5th in the constructors championship !

Yet we had Krack saying “ there is not much difference between Alonso and Stroll”….

This season it wouldn't have made a difference if they had two Alonsos. They were a clear tier or two behind 4th. Krack has to talk Lance up for obvious reasons. I also dont think hes as terrible as some of the rhetoric around him. He needs things to be just right for him to reach his peak. If things arent perfect with the car, he can spiral.

[KimiRai]

Look at our future technical leader!

[diffuser]

The Saudis invest a lot of money into AMR with different companies (the day will come when they buy out Stroll I believe), that AMR can buy the best guys. Ma’aden is the latest example. Out of nothing the teams 2nd biggest sponsor next to Aramco.

Reports say that they were very keen that Newey joins the team and want VER badly once he is available. I bet if they are on the right path in 2026, VER will join the team and will earn a never seen amount of money. Mercedes or Ferrari all have to justify pay checks to different groups. Saudi money in comparison…

You're trying to predict what happens in 5 years time with AMR ownership, what's the point? Sooo many things can change between now and then.

[-wkst-]

What’s the point in writing anything regarding the future of AMR then?

There has been not only one rumor that they want to buy the team. Stroll won’t be here forever, the day will come he wants to make bank, as he did already with 1/5 of the teams shares.

[peewon]

What’s the point in writing anything regarding the future of AMR then?

There has been not only one rumor that they want to buy the team. Stroll won’t be here forever, the day will come he wants to make bank, as he did already with 1/5 of the teams shares.

Lawrence's ultimate motivation has always been to make Lance win. Stroll will most likely bide his time to see if he can get AM to 2014 Merc or 2022 RB level before he does anything crazy to directly help Lance. If (highly unlikely if) AM are clearly ahead of the field, I can see Lawrence opting to put someone like Yuki in with Lance, someone who he maybe able to beat (with team's help of course) without raising too many eyebrows. The shenanigans they pulled in junior series probably would attract strong criticism and public scrutiny in F1.

Otherwise F1 is an amazing business to be in right now. And more than that, owning an F1 team is a prestige thing as well. Only 11 teams in the world. And rich guys love having things others cant. It also gets you access to many people across the world. So Im not 100% sure he'll be to sell even if the Lance thing doesnt materialize.

[-wkst-]

F1 is currently an amazing business to be in, right. Buy low, sell high. Stroll sold already 1/5 of the team that he got most of his investments back. Yes, he is in F1 for his boy, but the team turned into a great investment, as he entered at the right time. Like he did it with his fashion brands, he wants to make money too…

Furthermore I don’t have the fear that there will be a garbage 2nd driver to favour STR. Newey and other high profile engineers, other shareholders and partners would never accept such a decision. That would destabilize the team. He would ruin more than he built over the years with such a decision.

[peewon]

F1 is currently an amazing business to be in, right. Buy low, sell high. Stroll sold already 1/5 of the team that he got most of his investments back. Yes, he is in F1 for his boy, but the team turned into a great investment, as he entered at the right time. Like he did it with his fashion brands, he wants to make money too…

Furthermore I don’t have the fear that there will be a garbage 2nd driver to favour STR. Newey and other high profile engineers, other shareholders and partners would never accept such a decision. That would destabilize the team. He would ruin more than he built over the years with such a decision.

He sells stake to generate cashflow for big expenditure. And he might even sell more going forward while maintaining control of the team. Before the cost cap you could sink an unlimited amount of money into F1. Now its loss limited. He might move on if the Lance project fails to materialize but I think the way F1 is growing and its cultural relevance he would like to be involved much longer.

If you look into some of the things his teams did in junior series, I think its extremely likely he will do anything if he thinks Lance has a chance. Engineers will care about constructors championships IMO and some might even see it as a flex to make someone like Lance WDC.