michl420 wrote: ↑23 Dec 2020, 17:41If I understand that token system correct, they can change either the back of the monocoque (2 token), or the "gearbox" (2 token) but not booth? As the compressor need space, they almost must change the monocoque, that gives a lot of empty space where the renault turbine was.
Ground Effect wrote: ↑23 Dec 2020, 17:47Just remembered Peter Prodromou, I’m assuming he’s still in McLaren, right? We don’t hear much of him, it would be nice to hear him talk about the aero side of things.
Seriously. Give it a rest. Probably something like a quarter of posts on this page are you STILL bitter about the whole RP situation this season. We beat them fair and square, so let it go.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑26 Dec 2020, 17:08Very interesting article but I have to disagree with the title. I will use the response from someone under the article. McLaren hardly stole 3rd at the 11th hour, they lead the midfield for most of the season. In fact the only reason Racing Point were ahead was because Mercedes (decided to) ruin their drivers pit stops at Bahrain. Without this RP would have finished 25 point behind McLaren, 10 more than RPs poultry penalty for cheating. Sure, at a lot of the races RPs car was better, but they also struggled at many whilst McLaren’s car, drivers & team performed well nearly everywhere. That is the difference between a trully great team that has the organisation to be number 1 again and actually tries to by their own means and a midfield team that tries to steal the spotlight with the work of others but stays an average midfield nonetheless.
Just don't pay any attention to hp numbers. They are never backed by evidence. Pure speculation.Lucky wrote: ↑27 Dec 2020, 06:17Similarly, the first tests carried out at the Brixworth factory on the EQ Power + 2021 power unit have also reported good news for the seven-time champions. Thanks to the use of innovative materials and fuels by the department led by Hywel Thomas, the new silver arrow will be 25 horses more powerful in 2021 without compromising its reliability.
A remarkable development that will surely allow the Germans to keep the forefront in this section next year, as it should be remembered that during qualifying for the Styrian GP 2020 some reports indicated that Mercedes had an advantage of 28 horsepower over Honda, 37 on Renault and 42 on Ferrari.
https://as.com/motor/2020/12/26/formula ... 19759.html
To be fair it was clear in hindsight the qualifying mode was giving Mercedes atleast upto 0.3 of a second depending on the track. That does map somewhat to the numbers given that they had a peak 20-30 bhp advantage, now probably the comparative position of the others are up for debate apart from Ferrari being lastkfrantzios wrote: ↑27 Dec 2020, 11:45Just don't pay any attention to hp numbers. They are never backed by evidence. Pure speculation.Lucky wrote: ↑27 Dec 2020, 06:17Similarly, the first tests carried out at the Brixworth factory on the EQ Power + 2021 power unit have also reported good news for the seven-time champions. Thanks to the use of innovative materials and fuels by the department led by Hywel Thomas, the new silver arrow will be 25 horses more powerful in 2021 without compromising its reliability.
A remarkable development that will surely allow the Germans to keep the forefront in this section next year, as it should be remembered that during qualifying for the Styrian GP 2020 some reports indicated that Mercedes had an advantage of 28 horsepower over Honda, 37 on Renault and 42 on Ferrari.
https://as.com/motor/2020/12/26/formula ... 19759.html
I find most of the news around this time to sound like propaganda. So I agree with kfrantzios.tangodjango wrote: ↑27 Dec 2020, 12:02To be fair it was clear in hindsight the qualifying mode was giving Mercedes atleast upto 0.3 of a second depending on the track. That does map somewhat to the numbers given that they had a peak 20-30 bhp advantage, now probably the comparative position of the others are up for debate apart from Ferrari being lastkfrantzios wrote: ↑27 Dec 2020, 11:45Just don't pay any attention to hp numbers. They are never backed by evidence. Pure speculation.Lucky wrote: ↑27 Dec 2020, 06:17Similarly, the first tests carried out at the Brixworth factory on the EQ Power + 2021 power unit have also reported good news for the seven-time champions. Thanks to the use of innovative materials and fuels by the department led by Hywel Thomas, the new silver arrow will be 25 horses more powerful in 2021 without compromising its reliability.
A remarkable development that will surely allow the Germans to keep the forefront in this section next year, as it should be remembered that during qualifying for the Styrian GP 2020 some reports indicated that Mercedes had an advantage of 28 horsepower over Honda, 37 on Renault and 42 on Ferrari.
https://as.com/motor/2020/12/26/formula ... 19759.html