Reminds of of Kimi at Lotus with the front exhaust teaming with Petrov.
That car was a dark horse, could have won more races but the team couldnt support it's development to keep up with Redbull.
Reminds of of Kimi at Lotus with the front exhaust teaming with Petrov.
That's because Lotus had no money
following a concept, and blatently stealing and copying a design are 2 differnt things. i would challenge anyone to point out any visible area on the aston where the team has blatantly copied the redbull. if you see it, please point it out because i dont think its there. the problem for redbull is that there are many ways to achieve the same thing in aero design, and unless the team were dumb enough to copy and paste like they did with the mercedes a couple of years back, before fallows was there, its all conjecture. aston are just doing what every other team on the grid are doing with better people. thats not even taking into account that redbull are using fallows designs to start with.Venturiation wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 18:01dan fallows made the RB18 and project of RB19 so he knows every detail
redbull are angry because he knows the tricks that makes them fast
never there was a car that jumped from 7th on the gris to 2nd in just 6 months
redbull lost him and aston martin have a real advantage now
but how long will it take for other teams to learn what fallows is doing?
they didn't copy anythingzoroastar wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 18:14following a concept, and blatently stealing and copying a design are 2 differnt things. i would challenge anyone to point out any visible area on the aston where the team has blatantly copied the redbull. if you see it, please point it out because i dont think its there. the problem for redbull is that there are many ways to achieve the same thing in aero design, and unless the team were dumb enough to copy and paste like they did with the mercedes a couple of years back, before fallows was there, its all conjecture. aston are just doing what every other team on the grid are doing with better people. thats not even taking into account that redbull are using fallows designs to start with.Venturiation wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 18:01dan fallows made the RB18 and project of RB19 so he knows every detail
redbull are angry because he knows the tricks that makes them fast
never there was a car that jumped from 7th on the gris to 2nd in just 6 months
redbull lost him and aston martin have a real advantage now
but how long will it take for other teams to learn what fallows is doing?
ok i feel i may have misunderstood your post a little haha. yeah im looking forward to the first big upgrades. and im really curious to see how close the astons are to redbull on a like for like race, where no collisions occur. i think they could be a lot closer than they looked in bahrain. then we will hear the cries from redbull even stronger.Venturiation wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 18:23they didn't copy anythingzoroastar wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 18:14following a concept, and blatently stealing and copying a design are 2 differnt things. i would challenge anyone to point out any visible area on the aston where the team has blatantly copied the redbull. if you see it, please point it out because i dont think its there. the problem for redbull is that there are many ways to achieve the same thing in aero design, and unless the team were dumb enough to copy and paste like they did with the mercedes a couple of years back, before fallows was there, its all conjecture. aston are just doing what every other team on the grid are doing with better people. thats not even taking into account that redbull are using fallows designs to start with.Venturiation wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 18:01dan fallows made the RB18 and project of RB19 so he knows every detail
redbull are angry because he knows the tricks that makes them fast
never there was a car that jumped from 7th on the gris to 2nd in just 6 months
redbull lost him and aston martin have a real advantage now
but how long will it take for other teams to learn what fallows is doing?
fallows made the RB18
when he joined aston martin he made a car with everything that was good in RB18 and improved where he wanted
the point is is RB19 and AMR23 are far ajead everyone and fallows seems to have a trick that no one knows yet , and it isn't about the sidepods but something that makes the ground effect cars work
ferrari and mercedes were 1 second faster in the simulator but failed on track
aston martin and redbull all hit their goals perfectly
and it isn't a problems with the tool mercedes and aston martin use the same
i can see aston martin having better upgrades because redbull doesn't have fallows anymore
everyone is saying newey made the car but he doesn't have much imput any more
Would love Alonso to be WDC this year, but don't see AMR closing probably 0.8 seconds to beat RBR in outright race pace. However, there might be a chance for next season, and that would be amazing. Although Merc will definitely catch up soon.
Similar sentiment here in wanting to see Alonso challenge. He might not win it, but seeing it play out with Verstappen would keep it more interesting.
The regulations were initially proposed for 2021 debut so these cars were conceptualized in 2020 if not late 2019.chrisc90 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 21:52It would be good to know exactly how much Dan knows about the RB18 and the concept. I mean it was June 2021 he was announced as the new technical director at AMR. So it does beg the question how much he knows about that car. Granted there will be a fair bit given the initial design phases.
June 2022 I believe, and this is his first proper car.chrisc90 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 21:52It would be good to know exactly how much Dan knows about the RB18 and the concept. I mean it was June 2021 he was announced as the new technical director at AMR. So it does beg the question how much he knows about that car. Granted there will be a fair bit given the initial design phases.