Concept power units from 2030

[NL_Fer]

Just realised if we would get rid of the turbo, a GU-H will have an abundance of exhaust gas to recover energy. Also when going back NA engines, we don’t need the fuel flow limit anymore. A 2.4L NA V8 limited to 15000rpm would be pretty equal in power output for all manufacturers.

Also the potential for an exhaust gas race to feed the GU-H would be limited without a turbo to add excess air and lean the combustion.

It would be still pretty efficient converting all the exhaust energy to electric power and hopefully sound nice too.

[mzso]

Just realised if we would get rid of the turbo, a GU-H will have an abundance of exhaust gas to recover energy. Also when going back NA engines, we don’t need the fuel flow limit anymore. A 2.4L NA V8 limited to 15000rpm would be pretty equal in power output for all manufacturers.

Also the potential for an exhaust gas race to feed the GU-H would be limited without a turbo to add excess air and lean the combustion.

It would be still pretty efficient converting all the exhaust energy to electric power and hopefully sound nice too.

We don't need fuel flow limits with turbo engines either. It's there to force the engines to be efficient.

[DenBommer]

Maybe we could see Ferrari’s proposal in the next regulation change, like in this article.

It sounds nice to me. I just wonder how much power the ICE will have.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201024202 ... ersteller/

[mzso]

Maybe we could see Ferrari’s proposal in the next regulation change, like in this article.

It sounds nice to me. I just wonder how much power the ICE will have.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201024202 ... ersteller/

Why have V8-s with twin turbos? One talking point over the past couple years is making the cars shorter and lighter.

[De Wet]

Maybe we could see Ferrari’s proposal in the next regulation change, like in this article.

It sounds nice to me. I just wonder how much power the ICE will have.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201024202 ... ersteller/

Why have V8-s with twin turbos? One talking point over the past couple years is making the cars shorter and lighter.

And Sound Like Motorsport.

[mzso]

Maybe we could see Ferrari’s proposal in the next regulation change, like in this article.

It sounds nice to me. I just wonder how much power the ICE will have.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201024202 ... ersteller/

Why have V8-s with twin turbos? One talking point over the past couple years is making the cars shorter and lighter.

And Sound Like Motorsport.

Which goes from one cylinder two stroke 50cc to several liter v12-s.

[De Wet]

Why have V8-s with twin turbos? One talking point over the past couple years is making the cars shorter and lighter.

And Sound Like Motorsport.

Which goes from one cylinder two stroke 50cc to several liter v12-s.

Are we not talking F1 here ?

[mzso]

And Sound Like Motorsport.

Which goes from one cylinder two stroke 50cc to several liter v12-s.

Are we not talking F1 here ?

Well you said, motorsport. So 1.5l to 4.5l, 4-16 cylinders then. With or without turbo.

[Tommy Cookers]

A wild concept would be a straight up engine formula, where the PU has an impact on the aero ....
Keep traction control and ABS banned .... Bring back vibration mitigation solution ....

it is impossible to have (eg at the current power of MGU-K) neutrality regarding ABS-like and TC-like behaviours
eg at high speed friction brake torque then sudden under-rotation can subvert GU-K response ...

I had suggested a 'flat-crank' ie 4-throw flat 8 for perfect balance (though it only fires 4 times per cycle)
similarly the 4 cylinder radial or some derived modules

btw
Ferrari has done F1 engines with cylinder counts from 2 to 18
a single and several twins have raced in F1 WDC events

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Which goes from one cylinder two stroke 50cc to several liter v12-s.

Are we not talking F1 here ?

Well you said, motorsport. So 1.5l to 4.5l, 4-16 cylinders then. With or without turbo.

Don't forget karts!!

[Zynerji]

For all the wrong reasons, I want air-cooled, removable jug, supercharged, 2 stroke I5's that run on nitromethane, and are disposable after every session. Oh, and 7 gears.

[FW17]

E-rev engine on what ever config and fuel.

A 1000hp generator with 4 motors 350hp for each corner and a 0.5kwh battery.

[De Wet]

Which goes from one cylinder two stroke 50cc to several liter v12-s.

Are we not talking F1 here ?

Well you said, motorsport. So 1.5l to 4.5l, 4-16 cylinders then. With or without turbo.

That's better... 50cc will not work to well in F1.

[Tommy Cookers]

E-rev engine on what ever config and fuel.
A 1000hp generator with 4 motors 350hp for each corner and a 0.5kwh battery.

in the modern version of the free-piston ICE (no vibration, no crankshaft, no con-rods, no cams etc) .,...
the 2 pistons are each also the moving part of a linear (electrical) generator ....
which can also have ICE-controlling effects eg ... starting ...'revs' ... 'gears' ... etc
and maybe throw in an exhaust turbine etc ....

what's not to like ?

[mzso]

Are we not talking F1 here ?

Well you said, motorsport. So 1.5l to 4.5l, 4-16 cylinders then. With or without turbo.

Don't forget karts!!

That last comment was about F1 only.