Mercedes-AMG F1 on Twitter posted this today:
Is this a new shape?
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I know that but I was specifically interested why you said the rake between the front wing and bargeboard was more important. I I can't see how that makes any difference to creating vortices where you need them?godlameroso wrote: ↑18 Jun 2018, 13:12Simply put the two work in tandem to seal the diffuser, when they work in synergy the effect is much more powerful.
The bargeboards were much smaller in the v8 era from 2010-2013 to what we have now.Shakeman wrote: ↑19 Jun 2018, 11:27I know that but I was specifically interested why you said the rake between the front wing and bargeboard was more important. I I can't see how that makes any difference to creating vortices where you need them?godlameroso wrote: ↑18 Jun 2018, 13:12Simply put the two work in tandem to seal the diffuser, when they work in synergy the effect is much more powerful.
But if this area was so performant in the era of EBD the Renault front blowing exhausts would've been the norm instead everyone went for the EBD because controlling tyre squirt gave much more performance.
I'm not trying to be obtuse but I'm trying to understand why the rake between the front wing and t-tray is more important than the rake between the front wing and diffuser?godlameroso wrote: ↑19 Jun 2018, 12:44
The bargeboards were much smaller in the v8 era from 2010-2013 to what we have now.
The bargeboards strengthen the flow structures coming off the nose and front wing and in addition to creating downforce on their own they help tremendously in sealing the diffuser. The larger the bargeboards, i.e. the greater the surface area, the greater the aero potential, just like bigger wings on planes produce more lift than smaller wings.Shakeman wrote: ↑19 Jun 2018, 17:42I'm not trying to be obtuse but I'm trying to understand why the rake between the front wing and t-tray is more important than the rake between the front wing and diffuser?godlameroso wrote: ↑19 Jun 2018, 12:44
The bargeboards were much smaller in the v8 era from 2010-2013 to what we have now.
I don't see what the size of the bargeboards has to do with the rake?
The regulations specify front wing height 75mm higher than the reference plane, the t-tray is practically in line with the step plane, altering the rake angle front to back changes the angular relationship between the front wing and t-tray.
The underside of the t-tray is on the reference plane...the step plane is the underside of the sidepods.godlameroso wrote: ↑19 Jun 2018, 18:28The regulations specify front wing height 75mm higher than the reference plane, the t-tray is practically in line with the step plane
Ah thank you for that.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑19 Jun 2018, 18:34The underside of the t-tray is on the reference plane...the step plane is the underside of the sidepods.godlameroso wrote: ↑19 Jun 2018, 18:28The regulations specify front wing height 75mm higher than the reference plane, the t-tray is practically in line with the step plane